Taylor Swift albums and songs sales

CSPC Taylor Swift albums and songs sales cover

Guess who’s making headlines once again? Taylor Swift returned this summer with one more buzzed album, folklore.

The reception was highly positive. In fact, it’s the best rated record of her career according to both the press and the public, increasing her previous career high with Lover.

What about it’s commercial reception though? Is it one more smash for the American superstar?

During the 1989 era, Taylor Swift‘s extraordinary success looked even bigger since it was heavily focused on pure sales of both albums and singles, while the success of remaining artists was spread across more ways of consumption.

Thanks to the CSPC approach we defined how she truly competes with her challengers, including RihannaBeyoncéKaty Perry, Lady Gaga and Britney Spears.

She is especially similar to Rihanna, who was born in 1988, one year before Taylor Swift. Both artists dropped their debut album at the age of 17 and both have been heavily successful for over a decade.

Both are among the very top selling digital singles artists ever. The huge difference is the way Taylor Swift is widely regarded as a strong album seller, the opposite of Rihanna, mostly thanks to her multi-platinum albums in the US. We will be checking how accurate this perception is.

With folklore out for 3 months, we will also see how she performs with her first album to really embrace streaming.

As usual, I’ll be using the Commensurate Sales to Popularity Concept in order to relevantly gauge her results. This concept will not only bring you sales information for all Taylor Swift‘s albums, physical and download singles, as well as audio and video streaming. In fact, it will also determine their true popularity.

If you are not yet familiar with the CSPC method, below is a nice and short video of explanations. I fully recommend watching it before getting into the sales figures. Of course, if you are a regular visitor feel free to skip the video and get into the numbers directly.

The Commensurate Sales to Popularity Concept (CSPC)

There are two ways to understand this revolutionary concept. The first is the Scribe video posted below. If you are unaware of the CSPC method, you will get the full idea within just a few minutes.

If you are a mathematical person, and want to know the full method as well as formulas, you can read the full introduction article.

Now let’s get into the artist’s sales figures in detail in order to apply this concept and define the act’s true popularity!

Taylor Swift Album Sales

CSPC Taylor Swift album sales breakdowns

Original Album Sales – Comments

CSPC Taylor Swift album sales list

The five first studio albums, plus one Christmas EP, released by Taylor Swift total an impressive 41.7 million units.

More than anything, each of her studio outputs up to 1989 top the 6 million mark, an unreal achievement considering how proportionally poorly she has been selling in Europe.

With over 70% of her sales coming from the US, these figures can be regarded both ways, extraordinary or not so good, whether you are looking to North American results or abroad sales.

The latter improved with the success of 1989 which sold more than 4 million units outside of the US without accounting for Chinese downloads.

It goes on to show her success is huge in various markets outside of North America too, it’s just that her out-of-this-world sales in the US outshine remaining results.

The last three albums Reputation, Lover and folklore came out when streaming was already inevitable. Naturally, they sold less than their predecessors although their numbers are still very high by today’s standards.

Indeed, these albums are the only female albums to sell over a million copies in the US in the last 3 years.

The run of folklore has been especially impressive with 8 frames to date at #1. She is now exploiting to perfection the Asian industry methods to sell physical products, providing her fans various collectors through her website.

Taylor Swift songs sales

CSPC - Commensurate Sales to Popularity Concept - Physical singles

Physical Singles

CSPC Taylor Swift physical singles sales

As a reminder, the weighting is done with a 10 to 3 ratio between albums and digital singles.

Well, Taylor Swift‘s debut album came out in 2006, selling almost exclusively in North America.

By that time, there were still some consistent physical single sales in Europe, Japan, and in Australia but sales were long dead in the US. In fact, none of its singles were physically released.

In Europe, the collapse of physical singles came very precisely at that moment as figures dropped from 14 million in 2006 in the UK to just 3 million in 2009, less than 60,000 units per week for the entire market.

This is the context met by Love Story, the first hit by Taylor Swift that was promoted overseas.

This song sold a few physical copies in Europe and in Australia but wasn’t issued elsewhere. With 60,000 sales, it remains easily the star’s top seller in this format.

You Belong with Me was a hit in the same markets, but it got a physical release in Australia only, explaining the much lower sales.

By the time she had another international hit with We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, the physical singles market was completely dead even in Europe.

No single from Red was even issued in the old continent. In the meantime, her superstar status led her label to release limited editions of her singles in the US, most of which were numbered up to 2,500 units.

Two songs, Ours and We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, got unlimited releases, hitting #1 multiple weeks on physical sales chart with healthy sales. 

In later years, her huge popularity originated more releases in GSA countries while Eyes Open came out in China only.

Since 2019, countless limited releases came out in the US, securing some sales thanks to her very solid fan base for songs like ME!, cardigan or her early hits.

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Digital Songs

CSPC Taylor Swift digital singles sales

As a reminder, the weighting is done with a 10 to 1.5 ratio between albums and digital singles.

Self titled debut album Taylor Swift was only promoted in North America. All its singles were strongly successful there.

With both downloads and ringtones in both the US and Canada, they achieved nearly 16 million sales in the region, some 90% of their global sales.

These tracks weren’t necessarily big #1 hits, but they no doubt faced the test of time very well continuing to sell for many years, ultimately reaching impressive totals.

Teardrops on My Guitar is now over 4 million, joining Our Song there.

The era Fearless continued the impressive streak of US strong sellers. Two songs, Love Story and You Belong With Me, also added international appeal with pop versions issued. Together, this pair of songs sold 20 million units globally.

It isn’t only about hits though. The incredible success of Taylor Swift in the album front is also visible through her digital sales.

In fact, each and every one of the 18 tracks on Fearless sold 300,000 units or more and some album tracks even broke the million threshold. That’s a terrific total of 32.6 million downloads and ringtones from this era alone.

Speak Now didn’t register points as high as Fearless with no song higher than 3.6 million. The consistency was still superb though. In spite of no big hit songs from the album, it got 6 million sellers and the sales total stands on 18 million.

Red saw the country icon turned pop hit maker achieve success on an international scale. Both We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together and I Knew You Were Trouble sold over 8.5 million units.

They were super sellers in every English-speaking country, but the former was also massive in Asia while the latter was a smash in Europe.

The album continued her run of at least 5 million sellers by era, registering 6. The effort is home of singles adding for nearly 29 million digital sales.

With the addition of her Orphan tracks, which include as many as 9 million sellers, Taylor Swift was already well over 100 million digital singles sales when 1989 arrived.

The market segment of downloads was starting to go sharply down by then, but the album’s unavailability on streaming platforms made it perform incredibly well still.

Shake It Off sold 9.7 million despite the absence of ringtones and low South Korean success.

Blank Space did nearly 7 million and all three of Bad Blood, Style and Wildest Dreams were solid hits also. All told, the era produced 31,4 million sales.

Songs from Reputation had a very hard time trying to stand well against their predecessors. Their presence on Spotify and the likes inevitably divided their impact across distinct services.

That’s why these numbers here are not fully relevant as long as we haven’t add streaming results to them.

Look What You Made Me Do at nearly 2 million and …Ready for It? at almost 1 million are still great sellers considering their context.

The diva remains a super selling force in this format as shown with Lover tracks. Downloads are even less relevant in 2019 than in 2017 though so even if they performed very well on iTunes lists they add for only 1.9 million sales.

The surprise release of folklore means that no song was released before the album, killing the singer’s edge on this format as they got no big first week sales.

This reason along with the lack of Pop 40 smash and the ever decreasing download market explain the anecdotal downloads of songs like cardigan.

In total, that’s an immense 158.6 million units sold in downloads and ringtones combined for Taylor Swift, one of the most successful digital artist of all-time.

CSPC - Commensurate Sales to Popularity Concept - Streaming platforms numbers

Streaming

Streaming is made up of audio and video streams. Our CSPC methodology includes both to better reflect the real popularity of each track. The main source of data for each avenue is respectively Spotify and YouTube. To factor in the growing impact of multiple Asian countries where these platforms aren’t always the go-to site for music streaming, more sources have been added.

In order to account for their real popularity in each relevant country, the below sources have been used along with the mentioned ratios that reflect the market share of each area.

Audio Streams
– South Korea : Genie streams * 3.05 (consistent with Gaon streaming numbers)
– Japan : AWA streams * 100/5.5 (AWA has 5.5% of the Japanese streaming market)
– Elsewhere : Spotify streams * (370 – 8.5 – 9.5 – 33 – 9) / 207 (370 million global subscribers minus 8.5 million from South Korea minus 9.5 million from Japan minus 33 million from China divided by the number of Spotify only users minus 9 million more Asian users) + Genie streams * 3.05 (uses Genie rather than Spotify to extrapolate markets like Taiwan, Thailand and Vietnam)

Video Streams
– China* : Xiami streams * 125/6.5 (Xiami has just over 5% of the Chinese streaming market)
– Elsewhere : Youtube views

*since 96.4% of Chinese streaming platforms are free users, that paid-for users pay less than $2 a month and that they are also used as video streaming platforms, their streams are weighted in par with YouTube streams.

Audio Stream – 1500 plays equal 1 album unit
Video Stream – 11,750 views equal 1 album unit

Equivalent Albums Sales (EAS) = ( Spotify * 310/207 + Genie * 3.05*2 + AWA * 100/5.5 ) / 1500 + ( Xiami * 125/6.5 + YouTube ) / 11750

Top Hits

CSPC Taylor Swift top streaming hits

Back in 2013, We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together was inside the Top 20 most streamed tracks ever on Spotify.

While remaining singers started to amass large catalog streams, Taylor Swift took off her discography from these platforms with her streaming-is-evil campaign in order to boost her revenues thanks to higher pure sales.

Then, her catalog was made available anew in June 2017.

Her hits have been making up for these 3 years of unavailability. They are being strongly successful at it.

On Spotify, I Don’t Wanna Live Forever has now break the 1 billion barrier. Look What You Made Me Do is nearing 600 million. Additional singles from reputation are in the 220-465 million range.

Songs from Lover are climbing fast through her top hits list. At 494 million, Me! is her 3rd biggest song on Spotify.

You Need To Calm Down is at 465 million and Lover stands at 460 million, providing the album 3 songs inside her personal top 10.

What about her past hits? They enjoyed heavy rotation when coming back to the platform a pair of years ago. There is a dozen of them which already moved over 100 million, with Shake It Off leading the way at 489 million.

Folklore’s strength is the consistency of all its tracks, with no big hit surfacing. cardigan is her 25th biggest streaming hit to date, exile is at 35 while the 1 is at 39.

Thanks to their absence on Spotify, songs from 1989 registered gigantic views on YouTube. Shake It Off and Blank Space add for 5.8 billion there.

Even her songs widely available do very well there with a stunning career total of 22.4 billion views.

It’s worth talking about her Asian statistics too. She has 9 songs over 10 million streams on Xiami which illustrates her heavy success in China.

Since her recent albums have been available only for sales at first, the leading track remains Love Story.

In South Korea (Genie) she is very popular too. Look What You Made Me Do is her leader with Me! securing already the second spot.

In Japan, You Belong With Me remains her strongest song with also impressive results from Shake It Off and We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together.

Album-wise 1989 has now moved ahead of reputation with 3.21 million EAS against 3.11 million. Lover is catching up fast too at 3.08 million.

All albums since Fearless, including newly released folklore, crack the million mark.

Full catalog breakdown

If you are familiar with the artist’s catalog and want to check details of each and every song, you can access to all of them right here.

Keep yourself up to date

Our website provides you a fantastic tool which fetchs updated Spotify streams as you request them, use it to watch these results grow day after day!

Taylor Swift compilations sales

It sounds fairly logical to add together weighted sales of one era – studio album, physical singles, downloads, streams – to get the full picture of an album’s popularity. For older releases though, they also generate sales of various live, music videos and compilation albums.

All those packaging-only records do not create value, they exploit the value originating from the parent studio album of each of its tracks instead. Inevitably, when such compilations are issued, this downgrades catalog sales of the original LP.

Thus, to perfectly gauge the worth of these releases, we need to re-assign sales proportionally to its contribution of all the compilations which feature its songs. The following table explains this method.

The distribution process

CSPC Taylor Swift compilation distribution example

How to understand this table? If you check this example of the Journey To Fearless line, those figures mean it sold 180,000 units worldwide. The second statistics column means all versions of all the songs included on this package add for 1,162,011 equivalent album sales from streams of all types.

The second part on the right of the table shows how many equivalent streams are coming from each original album, plus the share it represents on the overall package.

Thus, streaming figures tell us songs from Fearless are responsible for 74% of Journey To Fearless tracklist attractiveness, which means it generated 133,000 of its 180,000 album sales and so on for the other records.

Compilations sales figures listing

CSPC Taylor Swift compilation sales list

Full Length related records Sales – Summary

CSPC Taylor Swift compilation sales dispatching

Here is the most underestimated indicator of an album’s success – the amount of compilation sales of all kinds it generated. Due to the dependency of sales of the original studio albums on these releases, they are a key piece of the jigsaw.

These numbers are obtained by applying the method from the section The distribution process to all packages listed under Compilation sales figures listing category.

Chinese downloads are weighted as per their price, at selling price / 50, which is roughly 0.4 for Taylor Swift‘s albums.

We can notice that the American superstar is doing wonders in China, with numbers going higher and higher.

They perfectly offset the absence of compilations-like products nowadays like tour DVDs.

Total Album (all types) Sales per Country

CSPC Taylor Swift album sales by market

Please note country-specific numbers may miss sales of a few minor releases, although totals are complete.

Taylor Swift Career CSPC Results

CSPC Taylor Swift albums and songs sales cover

So, after checking all the figures, how many overall equivalent album sales has each Taylor Swift album achieved? Well, at this point we hardly need to add up all of the figures defined in this article!

Albums CSPC results

In the following table, all categories display figures that way, e.g. in equivalent album sales. For example, singles from Fearless released in digital format sold the equivalent of 4,895,000 albums – 32,630,000 downloads with a 10 to 1,5 weighting.

CSPC Taylor Swift albums and songs sales

As a reminder:

  • Studio Album: sales of the original album
  • Other Releases: sales of compilations generated thanks to the album
  • Physical Singles: sales of physical singles from the album (ratio 3/10)
  • Download Singles: sales of digital singles from the album (ratio 1,5/10)
  • Streaming: equivalent album sales of all the album tracks (ratio 1/1500 for Audio stream and 1/11750 for Video stream)

As time passes, 1989 is moving past Fearless to settle itself as the most successful album in Taylor Swift‘s career.

When we first reviewed her career in 2016, the gap was less than 200,000 units. It steadily increased until reaching over 2.4 million.

This happens in spite of strong catalog sales from Fearless, but 1989 is a true beast from every front right now, as it has been since day 1.

This immaculate trajectory leads it to nearly 19 million equivalent album sales in total, 940,000 more than 13 months ago when we last reviewed her catalog.

It is also fighting with Ed Sheeran‘s X to be the biggest album from 2014, a battle that it is losing at the moment due to the insane success of the British singer lately.

Fearless itself is an amazing runner up with 16.5 million sales through all formats. It is the third most successful album from 2008.

Interestingly, it must be noted that 1989 is the album that generated the highest number of download sales along with Fearless, although this sector has been collapsing for 7 years now and its songs had little time to add relevant catalog sales.

This highlights incredibly well how the absence of streaming boosted its digital sales and, consequently, how necessary it is to look at all possible music consumption formats to get a meaningful conclusion.

Red is up to 13.6 million, a figure that looks almost random due to the incredible standards of the singer. It continues to climb fast with over 600,000 units added every year.

Both Taylor Swift and Speak Now have gone over 10 million equivalent album sales, an immense total for anyone.

Then comes reputation at 7.8 million. After the strong first week led by her fan base and multiple marketing gimmicks, the album collapsed fast, faster than expected.

It has been able to sustain its appeal fairly well in the mid-run though. It also continues to do well with near 700,000 sales since our last update.

Its success is in the same league as the one of Taylor Swift and Speak Now once we consider it had much less years to amass sales.

We can also point out how difficult it is to hit 10 million many times, ones your casual listeners are already satisfied with plenty of hits from you.

In fact, Taylor Swift is the only female singer with 5 10-million sellers this millennium. Overall, only Eminem did better with 6.

Lover is now inching close to 6 million. It seems to be one more album that only needs time to grow.

Although there is still a long way, it isn’t impossible to see all her albums up to Lover reach 10 million at some point.

folklore is still quite recent, and while right now it lacks hits and its streams are down to lower numbers, it’s clear we can never underestimate this artist.

At 3.1 million, it’s safe to say the album will hit 5 million at some point.

It will need to remain in the spotlight for some time to join its predecessor on higher numbers, but this has been the daily work of Taylor Swift for nearly 15 years.

What’s safe to say is that Taylor Swift retains her superstar aura, granting her strong sales still for her upcoming releases, along with an highly valuable back catalog.

In a mere 13 months since our last study, she added 9.7 million sales, with less than one third of this number coming from a new release. That’s immense.

We started this article by a comparison with Rihanna, to see if it is justified to flag her as a weak album seller while nobody would argue otherwise for Taylor Swift.

While the latter has been more consistent through her career with five of her proper studio albums at 10 million equivalent albums sold, her top record is at 19 million despite benefiting from 18 months promotional campaigns.

The only album by Rihanna which received such an extensive promotion was Good Girl Gone Bad which, at least up to now, tops all Swift‘s albums.

What about totals though? Taylor Swift adds for 93.7 million equivalent album sales, compared to Rihanna‘s more than 97 million. Both artists have their strong suits, as well as their weaknesses, so the point isn’t to discredit one or the other.

Quite the opposite, both artists have been insanely popular since they first emerged. They have build impressively solid discographies.

Along with ColdplayDrake and Adele, the war rages on to see who reaches 100 million first, with Taylor Swift currently being the fastest growing artist of the pack.

The most recent artist to break this magical milestone is still Britney Spears. The ones mentioned above seem now poised to top her.

Who’s going to be the first artist of this millennium to reach the 9 digits level? Place your bet!

Singles CSPC results

The list is compiled in album equivalent sales generated by each song. Therefore, these figures are not merged units of singles formats. Instead, it includes weighted sales of the song’s physical single, download, ringtone and streaming as well as its share among sales of all albums on which it is featured.

1. 2008 – Taylor SwiftLove Story [Fearless]5,920,000
2. 2014 – Taylor SwiftShake It Off [1989]5,140,000
3. 2008 – Taylor SwiftYou Belong with Me [Fearless]4,420,000
4. 2014 – Taylor SwiftBlank Space [1989]4,280,000
5. 2012 – Taylor SwiftI Knew You Were Trouble [Red]3,310,000
6. 2012 – Taylor SwiftWe Are Never Ever Getting Back Together [Red]3,220,000
7. 2006 – Taylor SwiftTeardrops on My Guitar [Taylor Swift]2,600,000
8. 2006 – Taylor SwiftOur Song [Taylor Swift]2,320,000
9. 2014 – Taylor SwiftBad Blood [1989]2,300,000
10. 2017 – Taylor SwiftLook What You Made Me Do [Reputation]2,040,000
11. 2014 – Taylor SwiftWildest Dreams [1989]2,010,000
12. 2010 – Taylor SwiftBack to December [Speak Now]1,740,000
12. 2016 – Zayn & Taylor SwiftI Don’t Wanna Live Forever [Orphan]1,740,000
14. 2010 – Taylor SwiftMine [Speak Now]1,730,000
15. 2012 – Taylor Swift22 [Red]1,670,000

If you feel inspired by this list, we just created this CSPC Taylor Swift playlist on Spotify!

Discography results

Thanks to our new ASR (Artist Success Rating) concept, we know that her sales represent 14,04 million times the purchase of their discography. Coupled with her total sales, it translates into an ASR score of 205. The ranking of all artists studied so far is available too at this link.

Records & Achievements

  • At 16,536,000 EAS, Fearless is the 3rd most successful album from 2008.
  • At 18,958,000 EAS, 1989 is the 2nd most successful album from 2014.
  • Taylor Swift is the only post-2001 artist with 5 albums on 10 million EAS or more.
  • At 10,37 million pure sales, 1989 is one of the five 10-million selling albums from the 10s.
  • At 158,6 million download and ringtones sales, Taylor Swift is among the Top 10 selling digital artists of all-time.
  • At 4, Taylor Swift has the most albums ever debuting with more than 1 million sales in the US.
  • At 73, Taylor Swift has the 4th most US Hot 100 Top 40 hits ever, she is number one among female artists.
  • Taylor Swift has singles certified for more than 100 million units sold combining downloads and streams by the RIAA (US-only).
  • With Shake It Off and Blank Space, Taylor Swift remains the only female artist to replace herself at #1 of the US Hot 100.
  • Shake It Off and Blank Space are respectively the 17th and 27th most seen videos ever on YouTube, #2 and #5 among female videos.

NB: EAS means Equivalent Album Sales.

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… best-selling artists, albums, and singles

To improve your navigation we created several amazing cross-artists lists posted inside the CSPC: Data Collector article. Click on it to see the full listing of all CSPC results compiled so far!

… similar artists

To put figures from this article into perspective, click on the images below to reach career breakdowns of similar artists:

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Beyonce - Dangerously In Love
Rihanna albums and singles sales
Adele
Coldplay album sales

As usual, feel free to comment and / or ask a question!

Sources: IFPI, Spotify, YouTube, Discogs, Billboard, SPIN, Rolling Stone.

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Fanofpop

With regards to ASR, for the EDS part does it work like this? (Didn’t fully understand the explanation in the article. Or how Taylor’s was created
Artist A has 6 albums that sold 10m CSPC and orphan that sold 20m
Their EDS would be (10/80)*10m=1.25m per album
Is orphan EDS 0 or 5m
CSPC is 80m
ASR = sqrt (80m) * sqrt(7.5m)
or
ASR=sqrt(80m) * sqrt(12.5m)
Artist B has 8 albums that sold 10m
CSPC is 80m
EDS is 1.25m per album (10m total)
ASR = sqrt (80m) * sqrt(10m)

César

MJD, you missed folklore in the equivalent album sales chart 🙈.

Frank

Hi MJD, you noted above that one chinese download is 0.4 for every 1 Taylor album but I see Folklore Asian album sales being 45.000 while Folklore has 900.000 digital sales in China alone. If we multiply 900k by 0.4(your weighting method to balance cheap Chinese downloads and Western downloads), we would get 360k album sales from China alone, but why are Folklore Asian album sales given at a 45.000-mark only, I am surprised. Thanks for your reply beforehand

Fanofpop

He put it at 454k

David

folklore wasn’t included in the cspc update. what are its worldwide sales as of now?..also they said lover was at 6 million but it is showing only 3 million cspc which is the correct total?

Ryan

A mistake: her ‘album CSPC results’ table are not updated in this article

musicotic

if you made an adjustment for downloads cannibalizing CDs, you should adjust for when artists purposefully exclude their catalog from certain formats (e.g. streaming) in order to boost other types of sales (downloads, CDs, etc) – two prime examples are Taylor Swift and Beyonce.

Chika

Im not sure what you mean? It will naturally balance out as they will consume the music on other platforms instead of on Spotify, Pandora, YouTube, songs with no physical release boosting album sales etc etc. The flip side is obviously that they will have significantly reduced, or zero sales in the platform they were withheld from, balancing out the real demand. They don’t really benefit except in scenarios where only one avenue is taken into account, eg. Inflated popularity when only considering pure album sales for 1989. But the CSPC concept serves to eliminate that inflation to find the… Read more »

musicotic

I’m pointing out that not releasing albums on streaming will inflate pure sales, did you read my comment?

Rob

Hi we need some new updates for Taylor since she released another brand new album folklore!

ysa

her streams are not updated

no name

Hello! IFPI has Taylor Swift as the biggest artist of 2019 infront Billie, Ed, Ariana, etc. I think this is proof they fully counted China and aren’t weighing it down. Do you think you will eventually do the same because if we take CSPC? I’m sure the top 10 of 2019 would be very different and I personally consider IFPI the most reputable organization in the music industry. Chears!

Lemenson

Chartmasters differs between western world audio streams (1500=1 album unit) and Chinese audio streams (10750=1 album units). While the IFPI weights every audio stream the same, regardless of how much revenue they may generate. Chinese album sales (3$) are factored by 0,5. The IFPI weights them 1.

Matt

Out of curiosity. How exactly do you know how the IFPI weights audio streams? Did they report this?

Jake

What?

It doesn’t matter how much revenue the sales generate, what does this have to do with music?

A sale is sale, Taylor is being heavily downplayed here.

Michael

A sale is a sale but the weights are different. You cant say a 1$ download sales equals to a 14$ album sales as much as you cant say a 3$ album sales equals to 14$ album sales. So no, not everything is the same. If a sale is really a sale. Than I guess Rihanna told record sales can make Taylor looks like good amateur. She sold close to 100 million more downloads than Taylor, outstream Taylor by a landslide too and Taylor only have a small 10 million album sales lead over her. But the team didnt take… Read more »

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Matt

Rihanna outstreams Taylor by a landslide? Isn’t Taylor ahead of Rihanna on YT, Apple Music, Amazon Music and catching up on Spotify?

Michael

Recently yes. Shes catching up. But over the past 6-7 years Rihanna has been outstreaming her a lot. I dont think shes ahead. Probably not even close. Just last year when she was updated. Her total EAS from streaming was 11 million while Rihanna was at 20 million. Im pretty sure Rihanna is probably at 23-24 million by now, while taylor even if she grows by 7-8 million. Shes still trailong by like 5 millions or so. Which is a lot. Rihanna also has not released any albums for 4 years. Imagine what will happen once she released an album.

Matt

I’m not talking about Taylor catching up. I’m talking about the fact that Taylor is ahead on 3/4 major streaming platforms, not even including QQ and Gaana. The only place where Rihanna has more streams as a lead is Spotify

musicotic

Amazon Music is not a major streaming platform, YouTube generates significantly less revenue (hence why it is weighted less than audio streams in every consumption metric – IFPI, Billboard, etc), and Rihanna is more streamed on Apple Music, per their last update. QQ is hard to get a read on and Gaana’s total contribution is minimal.

musicotic

Gap on YT: 4B
Apple Music doesn’t release data, but they have reported in the past that Rihanna was their most streamed female (https://www.macrumors.com/2018/03/12/rihanna-most-streamed-female-artist-apple-music/#:~:text=Rihanna%20is%20the%20world's%20most,%2C%20Beyonc%C3%A9%2C%20and%20Ariana%20Grande.).

Amazon Music is an extremely small market.

bickenhead

Sorry, but Taylor Swift is more streamed than Rihanna on Apple Music. That update you posted is from 2018. In 2019, Apple updated the list again. https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/8501699/apple-top-streaming-female-artists-international-womens-day
“Apple Music’s most-streamed female artists of all time:
1. Ariana Grande
2. Taylor Swift
3. Rihanna”

bickenhead

And mind you, that was before the first single off of Lover was even released. So Taylor’s gap on that platform over Rihanna has only grown.

As for “Amazon not being a major streaming service” its early 2020 subscriber count was close to Apple’s (55m for Amazon vs. 60m for Apple). https://9to5mac.com/2020/01/23/amazon-music-subscriber-numbers/

I would consider it to be major…

Jake

I am comparing album sales, you are comparing digital downloads to albums.

Didn’t Taylor sell physical albums in China? If so, they should be counted normally, because they are physical sales. If they were downloands, I agree, it’s not the same.

Michael

Download is weighted less than a physical album simply because its cheaper. Taylor 3 dollar is weighted less than a 14 dollar album because its cheaper. What difference does it makes? 🙄. One person who have 14 dollars to spend on a CD of her favorite artist, will think. Why would I buy a CD costing 14 dollars when I could buy a CD costing 3 dollars and I could buy 3 of them to make my fav artists got inflated like crazy. Or, a person who likes say only 1-2 songs from that particular album but are not willing… Read more »

Jake

As I said, I was talking about physical albums, not downloads.

Not everyone can sell millions of CDs in China like Taylor can, even if they cost 3 dollars. She is the only artist capable of doing that because she is truly huge there, so she deserves her credit.

I don’t know about Taylors situation in China, but if she is selling physicals they should be counted normally in my opinion.

Aren’t MJs album sales in China counted normally despite the low cost?

Frank

Clown, first of all, Chartmasters counts features as part of the artist’s total EAS. And even in that case, the gap between Taylor and Rih is a mere 5 million EAS (Taylor-91 million EAS(just released her 8th album), Rih-96 mln EAS(she already RELEASED 8 albums and has a lot of features)), and secondly stop downgrading Taylor. Taylor sold 14 mln more albums than Rih (the latest update was in 2019). You know albums count far more than songs. Thirdly, if we take away Rih’s features, Rih will look like an amateur (78 mln EAS vs 90 mln(Taylor)). And despite that,… Read more »

CruelSummer13

Taylor is doing well streaming wise lately. To think that just 2.5 years ago she was at 500M streams on Spotify to now garnering over 10B+ streams is really impressive. Maybe she’s not as huge on streaming like Ed Sheeran, Post Malone, Drake, Shawn Mendes, Eminem, Billie Eilish, Ariana Grande and Rihanna but she’s doing good, to be honest.

Tobi_Siston

You nee to see the global picture. In August 2018 Drake was announced with 50 Billion streams across all platforms worldwide. Now, in January 2020, Universal reports that Taylor’s discography was streamed 54 Billion times across all platforms worldwide. So that means Taylor reached the 50 Billion mark in 2019. All but 5 songs are non features. Quiet an impressive feat if you ask me.

Wlodi

Hello,
Could you please explain where numbers for reputation in Germany came from? I tried looking for them but I wasn’t able to find anything. Thanks.

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