CSPC: Janet Jackson Popularity Analysis

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You have been voting in your numbers on voting at Chartmasters.org for your favorite artist to be studied with the Commensurate Sales to Popularity Concept. The promise was that artists winning each category would be covered within a few weeks. On political campaigns, commitments aren’t always completed but our site is fully aiming to respect them! Among artists with a mid-sized discography, Janet Jackson received half of the votes – 297 out of 592 as of now – the highest total of any artists from all categories making it natural to start filling your wishes by working on her statistics!

It is a mystery to nobody that the American superstar hasn’t been doing headlines for many years. The little sister of Michael Jackson is more than a famous sibling or a faded rising star. Her discography spans 33 years from 1982 to 2015. Along the way she topped the US charts with 10 singles and 7 albums, proving a real selling power.

Albums like Control and Rhythm Nation 1814 are often claimed to be 14 million sellers each while 1993 set Janet. is supposed to be a 20 million seller. Regular readers of our website are certainly questioning those tallies though as they know how often inflated figures flood the internet, especially when the popular divas a la Madonna, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston or Celine Dion are concerned. Her chart toppers are completely legitimate so she must have sold a good chunk of units with various of her records. What is the truth then? Where does Janet Jackson rank inside the all-time divas list?

As usual, I’ll be using the Commensurate Sales to Popularity Concept in order to relevantly gauge her results. The concept will not only bring you sales information for all Janet Jackson albums, physical singles, download singles, music videos and streaming, it will also accurately weight all this information to conclude her true popularity. If you are not yet familiar with the CSPC idea, the next page explains it with a short video, I fully recommend you to watch it before getting onto the sales figures. Of course, if you are a regular visitor feel free to skip the video and get into the figures. Let’s go!

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MusicFan

I always find Janet and Madonna conversations interesting because people get really intense. Janet and Madonna are similar in that they are visual artists and dancers more than singers. They’ve experimented with different sounds. And both had their biggest moments in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Talent and influence are debatable, but Madonna is bigger than Janet and she always was. Now you can argue that Madonna has an advantage as a white artist while Janet is black and her music is rooted in R&B. Janet was also affected by the Super Bowl, and more info has come available to prove… Read more »

Jomile

I agree! And finally somebody that doesn’t hate Janet (for no reason).

MusicFan

I really like Janet; she was one of my favorites growing up. I may have had a few Janet inspired Halloween costumes. Lol

Satsify Me Please

Janet having family connections didn’t get her foot through the door that is a big lie cause there is only 2 successful Jackson family members.

unkonoi

confirmation on some of janet’s albums

control, rhythm nation and janet. have all sold over 14 million copies worldwide, confirmed by mtv. meaning if she would update her sales on riaa should would have 3 diamond albums.
proof – https://books.google.com/books/about/Billboard.html?id=YQ4EAAAAMBAJ

janet. has sold over 20 million copies worldwide, confirmed by virgin records themselves.
proof – https://www.virgin.com/branson-family/richard-branson-blog/signing-janet-jackson

Joseph John

I never read that Branson blog! Such a nice article. I mean, thats literally from the main man/owner of Virgin. No reason for him to lie.

Martin

This Janet “debate” is fucking epic, way beyond expectations.

Al

The amount of time wasted here is something for the history books on this site!

Martin

Aye, I reckon Madonna vs Queen might have been th e record holder!

Sonique

Martin, you’ve been gone for days!!! ♥️♥️

Last edited 10 months ago by Sonique
Martin

Hello, Sonique. Hope you are well.

césar

as a person that was part of the queen vs. madonna fight i got to say: that fight ended this one
what a childish era of mine 😭

Last edited 10 months ago by césar
Analord

Yeah, I wonder what could be done to prevent this…

Martin

Unfortunately nothing. It’s the bane of every music sales forum.

Analord

I’m pretty sure there are music sales forums which wouldn’t let someone go in a Janet Jackson thread and say she has “no talent” and “dumb fantards”…

Analord

Sure, “they started it”…

Jazz

Its actually largely thanx to Eminemfan and he is so annoying. Even went to Ed Sheeran page and throw some diss to several other artists. Somebody should really put his comment in the spam/trash section.

Jazz

Ah good news then 😁

Analord

Better late than never 😉

Dtew

Thank you so much I can’t stand that man.

ninetales

Janet Jackson is probably the most impactful female artist ever bar Madonna. Her talent and creativity really inspired tons of artists that came after.

With that being said, she is also the most forgotten LEGEND ever. Not even one of her songs really stood the test of time. Even Kylie Minogue and Enya have atleast one song each that reminds the public of their presence. It pisses me off because she got great discography.

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LivingOffTheWall

Thast not tue at all .
She is not close to Whitney , Aretha influence , let alone Madonna . Stop overrating that non-singing ass and rewritte history .

LivingOffTheWall

She is not for the general public .

Jazz

Can we stop with this ridiculous childish argument you and Eminemfan tried to start. So what if she doesn’t perform as well as other female artists, she still sold 80 million equivalent album sales and when u consider only 0.000001% of singers ever reach that (Some singers never even got record deals and are singing on the streets hardly enough to make a living) her achievement is already impressive. Plus there are so many artists in which their siblings tried to have a musical career themselves but failed to reach even 10% of what she achieved. Ever heard of Ashlee… Read more »

Yasmeenvips

So true 👍👍 we never said that Janet is the best selling female artist of all time but she belongs to ones of the greatest and she’s not a b league singer that nobody knows like you try to prove… the only person that you try to convince here is you. Many many artists can only dream to have even half of her career and achievements

LivingOffTheWall

The point is you cant put her on Madonna , Whitney , Mariah level with these numbers . 80Millions PALE in comparison to these artists . And this is only females , dont even start with males . Nobody says she didnt have some sort of success , she is just NOT at legend level . Even Boys Too Men beat her at that , they have a DIAMOND album , Janet couldnt PULL a DIAMOND album in her biggest market .Britney Spears has more influence and star power than her . You overrate her and we correct the fallacies… Read more »

Last edited 10 months ago by LivingOffTheWall
Jazz

Ok so she is not their league. So WHAT? You made your point now move on and get a life. There is also no need for comparisons. A little bit of comparisons is fine, too much of it is childish and annoying. Plus, after a certain point of sales, I dont know maybe 40-50 million sales it really doesnt matter anympre. They all had amazing success, full stop. I think you and EminemFan should stop acting childish. I have a feeling u 2 are the same person based on your points and the way you write. Its so annoying to… Read more »

Last edited 10 months ago by Jazz
Analord

“So if you are trying to start a fan war go to ATRL dont come here.”

To be fair, ATRL do have policies regarding trolls, one of their rules is “Do not post comments with the intent of derailing the thread into out of control arguments”.

Jazz

Yes it is true she is not on Mariah league. Again SO WHAT? I dont understand what’s the issue here? So shes not as big as Mariah why are u making that an issue? I dont understand why you have to create a fan war out of nothing. And to say she’s been handed silver platter is so false. She is the only artist in history that managed to make it big following another sibling success. I couldnt think of anybody else. Even Latoya Jackson and all of the Jackson 5 brothers failed to have even moderate success. So her… Read more »

Jazz

Who says she has more influence than Britney or Boyz 2 Men? She probably doesnt. And even if thats the case. Again SO WHAT? Why are you coming here and start attacking on artist, knowing full well you will get a lot of argumentative replies. Im sorry to say. Maybe its true you have a life. But your attitude right now doesnt show like you have one. I have never met a successful person acted in such a way as you do. Its obvious you were looking for a reaction and attention. Not even going to entertain you anymore.

unkonoi

she has multiple diamond albums, one of ther being janet. which sold over 20 million copies worldwide which was confirmed by virgin records. she’s just heavily under certified.

Satsify Me Please

Lol Rhythm Nation 1814 is a diamond album in the U.S. which the Grammy’s gave her a diamond plaque for and Control and janet. are also eligible for diamond in the U.S. and your weird a Britney fan coming at Janet when Britney copied Janet whole career oh please.

Jazz

So what if her numbers are not good enough compared to Whitney or Madonnq or whatever? So what? Nobody is denying the fact that she isnt in their league. People are just saying what she achieved is still amazing. I couldnt think of a sibling that managed to get huge success after their sibling reached commercial success first. So she did great. You made your point. Move on and get a life. I have a life because unless you didnt notice I dont waste my time trying to create “FAN WARS” something which cant be said for you.

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ninetales

Points taken. She is overshadowed by her brother by a huge margin. While her discography is one of the best, the public seems to forget how great she was. I can attest to it on a certain music site where her stans try to seek validation.

Nobody is questioning her legacy. But quite ironic she’s forgotten.

LivingOffTheWall

Her stans are begging in every site for validation .
At least if they were a bit level headed , they would put her at B list categoy , now nobody would disapprove .But since they want to bring at her broter level at all cost , they look ridiculous , delsuional and needy .

LivingOffTheWall

They made up her so-called ” impact” which is actually MJ impact .
Watch them claim Beyonce , when Beyonce has ALWAYS claimed since day one MJ is her prime inspiration ( +Tina Turner ) . Watch them claim Teyana Taylord in “Bare With Me” when everybody and thei mamas instantly recognise MJ . You dont see her songs picked up by Talent shows candidates or commercials but she more impact than anyone LOOL .More delusional you cant be .

unkonoi

she literally just had a whole episode dedicated to her on dancing with the stars a few days ago you look stupid

Joseph John

isn’t it funny bc thats her BROTHER, you and everyone always look at people respecting Janet as some sort of diminishing of MJ? Its sad bc this happens often. My goodness can you imagine growing up with that? Literally no other two siblings who individually attained pinnacle status in their careers of an industry besides…idk, the Williams sisters in Tennis? I mean, literally theres no siblings of that stature. And for her to come out of shadows that has never happened…its a feat. as Janet would say, Jermaine had a better voice, Randy was a better dancer (or one of… Read more »

Yasmeenvip

Nearly every artists on this planets are overshadowing by Michael or the Beatles are you kidding me lol 🤣🤣🤣

LivingOffTheWall

I dont need to , it cancels itself alone .

LivingOffTheWall

There is already someone calling me “Fake account” LMAO !

Jake

Together Again is instantly recognisable, so that’s not true.

Drewwwwww

You seem like a friend of his

Eminemfan

U can ask admin n find ips. . Lmao. Conspiracy over fanwars.

Mikko

I think Madonna and Janet’s career is over.

Satsify Me Please

If Janet a manufactured artist who rode her brother coattails to success then why her first two albums was the biggest flops? Their other 7 siblings was all in the spotlight and few had potential breakout stardom and all their careers ended and didn’t go nowhere so why it worked for Janet for some reason? You said Janet ride the coattails but you riding the coattails of a Janet hater! This whole comment section flooded with Janet haters you said the general public doesn’t give a damn about Janet but clearly they do I don’t see no complaints you really… Read more »

Eminemfan

With all nepotism and help she had, her numbers are nowhere in big 4 league. Even Enya, tina turner outsold her. And new mpgs are already ahead. The way her fans claim her in league of whitney is beyond me

ojd

why so speed negativity to every comment sections it’s so annoying. You don’t like Janet okay cool

Eminemfan

I am talking numbers. If u cant digest the fact that her numbers are low, considering how people try to put her in league of big 5, they can be called out. Stating facts = negativity for fans and its fact she had career, bcoz of her brother. There is reason nepotism is called out everywhere.

KantClark

Being Michael’s sister didn’t help her in anything. In fact this caused more barriers to her. Janet could come out of Michael’s shadow and build her own legacy. This is an anchievment that a few artist could. Janet’s sales really are low if we compare with her influence and status in music industry but she is a LEGEND!!! Period

ojd

he may have got her through the door but that doesn’t mean she would’ve been successful as evidenced by the jackson 5 members and latoya.

ojd

or most people value music over vocals because by that standard, no offence to elton john’s voice, but I don’t think he would’ve sold very much at all after 1974 if he didn’t make good pop music

TiffanyJackson1461

Janet Jackson was a gifted dancer, performer and she could write songs. Madonna’s only weak spot was vocals, as was Janet. They were better artists than Celine Dion or Whitney Houston. Those ladies had gifted voices but nothing else. The producers and songwriters gave them all their songs. Please, don’t downplay visual/dance/songwriting artists, just because they don’t have powerful vocals. You sound delusional. And very shocking coming from a fan of a man that use not only shock value but homophobia, misogyny and domestic verbal violence to sell his music. + He benefited from white privilege (which he admitted), and… Read more »

taylorrr13

All of your replies reek of misogyny and sexism.

Analord

You don’t seem to know what “nepotism” means, if you mean that she got a record contract because of her name… OK, so did La Toya Jackson, so what’s your point exactly ?

The irony of an Eminem fan talking about “lack of singing talent” and “shock factors”…

Analord

1. Please stop using the word nepotism if you don’t know what it means.

2. Music critics widely consider Janet to be one of the greatest pop artists of all-time, you can keep saying she has “no talent” but that’ll only make you look like a pathetic hater.

3. How many fake accounts do you have at this point ?

KantClark

This type of person should be banned. So disgusting

Clockingbell

Yeah, but you’re only pointing out negatieve numbers. She actually seems quite global like Sade, just a little less in Europe. 4 albums above 10 M EAS is very good, at least better than Gaga, Rihanna, Britney and, probably just for now, Adele. That being said, she was never in the the top league of course, and not very well remembered, but not much less than Madonna, Céline or Sade.

Clockingbell

I see Rihanna has just scored het 4th 10 million seller! Well done!

Joseph John

no

Jake

SADE is on the same level as Janet, Janet is bigger in US but Sade in Europe.

But Janet’s streams are extremely low, which puts her at a disadvantage.

Eminemfan

Sade has less releases and better average. And she has great success in usa as british. On album basis she outsold janet
Even 2010 album did better than janet’s 2000s releases and her music is timeless passing through generations. Janet was hitmaker of her time in usa atleast, but her music has failed d test of time.

sam

“Terrible Numbers” girl bye she has sold 160 Million records WW… Thats not on Madonna’s level but it remains HUGE. Her impact is still discussed today, get over it !

Molly

Oh wow, this is so nasty. They can’t even deny what you said though cuz it’s true tbh. A US only phenomenon who is most known for exposing her nipples on national TV and grinding on men at her stages. Never as global or popular as the people that were her supposed rivals. Just a littlegirl chasing after shadows much bigger than her, whether it was MJ or Madonna or Whitney or whoever, and now that that has expired, she’s a forgotten relic of music.

Analord

Man, those Eminem fans really don’t like Janet for some reason 😆 Yeah she was “chasing after Whitney’s shadow”, sure…

LivingOffTheWall

Oh please i am not an eminem fan and i agree .The vast majority of the world agrees actually seeing her stats .

Molly

In terms of being the “top black girl” she definitely was lagging behind. She had an image, and now that the image has faded, the music can’t stand the test of time.

LivingOffTheWall

Now she is in good grace with industry again and they have been trying to revive her image since 5 years , doenst work . Young people dont give a damn .Now they making a doc on the “Superbowl ” scandal to encourage people to stop ignoring her LMAO ! The desperation is deep .

Molly

Racism??? I’m black lmaooo. I’m tired. What’s racist about what I said? I called her a relic, which is a fact when you look at her streams. I said that she lagged behind her so called rivals, which is a fact when you look at her sales. Everything I said is TRUE! What is there to be jealous of career-wise?

LivingOffTheWall

I dont even see that “impact” they love to bragg about . She is nowhere near Madonna influence , dont even get started with MJ .

LivingOffTheWall

THANK YOU ! I have been saying it . These artists didnt give a damn about her just 5 years , it’s only when she became in good grace with the industry again that her new team went in an agresive marketing campaign , paying tv networks and popular artists to praise her fo her to be visible and loved by the young generation . Reality is these artists pime influence is MJ , not Janet .

Eminemfan

Thing is these artists will put anyone under the bus if it benefits them. Now they say its good pr to stand with so called victim multi millionaire women ( stunt was planned we all know ), they gonna ride d train and she is mj”s sister. He defined impact. Even though whatever his personal life is all about.

LivingOffTheWall

Yep Sade has released an album once every 10 years yet is on the same level of sales as Janet , supposed to be a top tier that she is not .Embarrassing !

Eminemfan

Bcoz sade actually build a loyal fanbase who waits for her and has an actual legacy.

Joseph John

no, shes not and thats not true. Sade is amazing. But I really dont think you understand why in 1996 Janet got the highest recording contract in history? Why? Her RN tour was and still is highest attended debut tour in history. Her 7 top 5 in us singles for RN still untouched? Her streak of 18 consecutive top ten hits in a row…still untouched? 1st female grammy nominee for producer of year in history? 1st black female for …too many. a lot of people on here are weird AF. Theres no competition, all these artists are wonderful. But dont… Read more »

LivingOffTheWall

It has nothing to do with tastes , her music just hasnt stood the test of time .She is never mentioned in popular culture conversations , she virtually a nobody in Europe .

Analord

Sade is a soul/jazz band consisting of three white men and a black woman, comparisons with Janet are pointless and irrelevant.

Janet’s streams are similar to Madonna or Céline Dion, it’s just that they sold three times more albums than her so of course they have three times more streams (Madonna also had significant success in the 2000s, which helps when it comes to streaming).

She also has way more streams than La Toya Jackson, I’m curious how Eminemfan would explain that 😆

Yasmeenvip

Exactly I don’t know lots of young people from the new generation who knows 1 song from Madonna (Vogue maybe at least…) Celine yeah maybe with Titanic song but their catalogue are not classics like Queen or Michael and Janet did RnB new jack swing a musical genre who belongs to a certain era and doesn’t exist anymore.. and Janet has been less active in the past 10 years than both

Jake

Look at their streams.

Madonna and Celine have way more streams than Janet.

If you check their 80s and 90s album streams, you will see Madonnas and Celines albums outstream Janets.

katheryn

Janet is nearly forgotten these days. In terms of overall success, she’s nowhere near the big 4 (Madonna, Céline, Mariah, Whitney):

Best selling artists:
#5. Madonna
#12. Céline
#16. Mariah
#21. Whitney
#67. Janet

Spotify Monthly listeners:
19.9m – Whitney
17.5m – Mariah
16.2m – Madonna
10.4m – Céline
5.6m – Janet

Top 3 best selling albums combined:

111.8m – Céline
108.9m – Whitney
101.7m – Madonna
85.3m – Mariah
51.7m – Janet

Analord

“Janet is nearly forgotten these days. In terms of overall success, she’s nowhere near the big 4 (Madonna, Céline, Mariah, Whitney)”

She never was… It’s not that difficult to understand, Céline sold three times more albums than Janet so she has three times more streams, it’s logical and expected.

LivingOffTheWall

Then why do you all talk about her like she was anywhere near a rival of these 4 when she is a B list artist ?

Analord

Literally no one said she was “a rival of these 4” 😆

Joseph John

why did she make more money, WAY MORE, per album, per project than a lot of these folks? Billboard literally did an artist over 30 years and Janet ruled in 90 and 93 or was one of only a handful that was the number one artist of that respective year in NA. Shes a dance, performance artist and between 2004 and 2015 she was essentially erased and shut out of the mainstream. She also didnt fight it, disappeared for at least half those years, no press, no digital push until maybe 5-7 years ago, social media less long ago, and… Read more »

katheryn

Céline’s top 3 albums has more streams than Janet’s entire catalog so the number of albums released still won’t make sense.

Analord

Let me try a third time… I said she sold three times more albums, I didn’t say she released three times more albums.

And LivingOffTheWall is 100% a fake account.

God this website 😆

LivingOffTheWall

How am i a fake account ? LOL

katheryn

Again, even with less albums (in both sales and streams), Céline is still and will always be miles ahead:

89 million – Céline’s top 2 album sales combined

77.9 million – Janet’s career CSPC sales

*Celine outsold Janet’s entire discography with just two albums and is far superior in streams with just three albums so anything you say still wouldn’t make sense.

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Analord

Holy shit… Are you even reading my posts ? Anyway, let’s just end this before I say things I might regret.

“Last edited 18 hours ago by francis23456” 😆

katheryn

The fact that you have to mention anything else outside the topic because you have nothing left to say lmao.

Analord

I have nothing left to say to you, that’s right 😉

Satsify Me Please

Janet is a top 10 in female album seller and at least top 10 in records as well.

Claudius Faria

I really don’t think Janet’s streams are similar to Madonna or Celine. I’m quite sure her streams are more similar to Cher, Tina Turner, Cindy Lauper and Kylie Minogue.

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Analord

“Last point of urs is bullshit”

What a great argument.

LivingOffTheWall

Thats right compare her to Latoya Jackson , not bigger fishes like Madonna lmao !

LivingOffTheWall

Right!I didnt even know Sade was a band until recently . For me Sade has always a black woman singing soul .Thats it .

Eminemfan

Sade’s music has always been sold with her timeless beauty and different songs. Band was just like backup

Gabriel

Janet better than Britney?
She has 4 consecutive albums over 10 million, 2 of which are over 20 million

Last edited 10 months ago by Gabriel
Clockingbell

My mistake, I was thinking about consistency, but underestimated her sales

Molly

Depending on if you consider The Fame and The Fame Monster as separate albums in Lady Gaga’s discography, she’s supposedly quite close to 4 albums with 10 million EAS as well.

LivingOffTheWall

Janet has zero Diamond album , yet her biggest market is the US .

unkonoi

that’s because she won’t update her sales.

Satsify Me Please

She has 6 diamond albums counting Design Of A Decade and All For You which is obviously diamond.

Joseph John

Britney was molded after Janet. Britney literally moved her head like Janet when she danced. And she worked it. for the 7 years and now she cant bc well, the industry demolished her. the true icons are the ones who literally stand test of time. Madonna/Madge – Celine is a singer singer and Mariah is a singer singer/songwriter. They dont dance. Mariahs voice is pretty on off now. how can u compare bland mainstream music meant for worldwide audiences – Celine – to cutting edge stuff from madonna and Janet who were pushing envelopes also with sexuality. Janet brought unabashed… Read more »

LivingOffTheWall

I am black and agree with every single thing he said .

Eminemfan

I am person of color myself. I am whitney sade fan. I believe in numbers not imaginary impact

Clockingbell

What a pointless discussion! Her numbers are shown, you can think about it what you want, but now it’s just being rude and disrespectful. She has fans and haters, we get it, let’s move on, okay?

Clockingbell

Selective preaching? You know how to see enemies anywhere. I was reacting to your post, just because it was the latest. I was talking about fans and haters both, and I’m not trying to make her remembered. Stop treating anyone who disagrees with you as an enemy, as it drags down your points, even the valid ones.

KantClark

buddy, you’ve been repeating the same idiocies and oozing gratuitous hatred for two weeks. Don’t you have a house to sweep, dishes to wash? Anyway, since the page has become a lawless land that allows a
imbecile like you flooding useless things out there, feel free to continue playing your clown role.

Claudius Faria

The big four and Janet’s total Spotify streams numbers.

Mariah Carey: 4.820.127.970
Madonna: 3.799.793.574
Whitney Houston: 3.768.686.684
Celine Dion: 3.018.870.667
Janet Jackson is not on the list the 1000 most streamed artists ever on Spotify.

Last edited 10 months ago by claudius Faria
Analord

She has 1 billion streams on spotify.

And for the love of God, please stop comparing her to the “big four”.

Claudius Faria

One billion streams is not enough for her to be on 1000 most streamed artists ever on Spotify list.
And I’am comparing her to the big four because Yasmeenvip did it first. Especially with Madonna and Celine.

Analord

“And I’am comparing her to the big four because Yasmeenvip did it first.”

No she didn’t… She said they have low streaming numbers, she never said Janet was at the level of the “big four”.

Claudius Faria

Of course she did! She always brings Madonna streams to defend Janet’s low streams for example. I just wish to make it clear that Janet’s streams are not on the same level as the Big Four and cannot be compared. That’s all !

Yasmeenvip

No you misinterpreted what I said. Yeah Janet has way lower streams but Madonna doesn’t have huge streams at all comparing to her huge physical records sales. To me it’s even more schoking than Janet. Janet’s career was killed with the Super Bowl she released 1 studio album in 10 years she disappears for a long time. She didn’t release a single song since 2018 she’s nearly nowhere on social media. Madonna is everywhere and she’s the best selling female artist of all time but her stream numbers are not good for her standard at all and it’s cold fact… Read more »

Joseph John

who gives a f about streams? she doesn’t. and its amazing to see she has grown from like 4m to 6m+ monthly listeners on Spotify in the past couple years. she literally started social media in like 2017. whats crazy is why was she paid so much breaking records during “big 4” era…janet was always in the convo btw, but as she always did, she did things her way. its simply astounding the amount she made, tours and all, and what she sold given her private nature.

Yasmeenvip

Exactly of course she’s far from the big 4 in terms of numbers but what these people needs to know is that Janet is basically way more kind of a niche artist comparing to the Big4 she mostly did new jack swing rnb pure black music all her career she had few pop songs ( together again, if ( in a lesser extent), all for you) but her music were way less mainstream than the others… this kind of music never sold so much in Europe + she’s not a vocalist. The only exception is maybe Whitney who sold more… Read more »

Claudius Faria

The Big Four and Janet’s total YouTube views!

Mariah Carey: 5.529.049.132
Madonna: 4.255.290.347
Whitney Houston: 4.142.344.679
Celine Dion: 3.066.078.635
Janet Jackson: 350.715.539

Janet’s streams are very low we can’t compare to the Big Four

G.G.

Bear in mind that most of Janet’s music video are not available on her channel, and some have restrictions and only visible in a couple of countries.

Yasmeenvip

Exactly 👍

Claudius Faria

Bear in mind that most of Madonna’s music vídeos were not available in a lot of countries until 2017. And some of her music vídeos were published in her official Channel only in 2017 and 2018. For example: Material Girl published in 2017: 86 Million YT views. Dress you up published in 2017: 28 Million YT views. DCFMA published in 2018: 23 Million YT views. Human Nature, American Pie, Beautiful Stranger, Die Another Day, I’ll Remember and many others Madonna’s music vídeos were only published in 2017 and 2018. So your point don’t make sense at all. If Janet’s team… Read more »

Yasmeenvip

Janet’s official YouTube arrive maybe 5 to 6 years later after all the other divas plus her YouTube channels misses a tons of videos and music…

Yasmeenvip

I don’t try to bring Madonna down but the truth is that Madonna hasn’t good streams at all nor a good catalogue at all too for the best selling female of all time. Sadly she will be easily surpassed by new generations soon, even MJD said that… At least Whitney is remembered by her musics used by new dj’s today and Mariah Christmas song makes her more appealing to the youngsters but Madonna’s biggest hit on Spotify Hung Up is only at 200 millions streams very low comparing to her total records physical sales so yeah maybe Janet’s numbers are… Read more »

Jake

Madonna will never be surpassed by the new generation. MJD never said anything like it. She has over 250 million equivalents with updates. No female artist is even close to Madonna. She has a 50 million lead over Celine which is staggering. And Madonna has timeless classics which are universally known such as Like a Prayer, Virgin and Hung Up just to name a few. She doesn’t need streams at this point when everyone knows these songs. Janet has one classic: Together Again and sold less than 100 million units. In addition to that she is completely forgotten as an… Read more »

Yasmeenvip

Madonna is not more known than Mariah or Whitney at all my dear open your eyes. People knows Madonna because it’s Madonna that’s it but not for her catalogue. Mariah has the merit for being known for her Christmas voice and whistle voice and Whitney is known for her being the Voice too but Madonna is only remembered for being a provocative feminist woman not for her vocal talent or any other thing

Clockingbell

So, to sum up this endless discussion, she is right where she belongs, at almost 80 million EAS, more or less on par with several artists (male and female) with less than brilliant streaming numbers. Some new topics would be nice.

Yasmeenvip

She will be soon be surpassed by Eminem Drake Rihanna Taylor Swift and others it’s just a matter of time nothing last forever

Eminemfan

Madonna is no way getting surpassed by new gen anytime soon.. Janet has been overtaken by so many women. What janet tardom drugs u r taking and no, Madonna outstreams janet plastic by good good margin. It is not even close
U trying to put them in same league wont change truth! Lmao
Excuses. If janet is not capable of releasing, its her fault. Bco she knows she is not profitable enough. Madonna’a numbers might not be MJ, but not horrible like janet whose fans claim her to be so impactful. But noone knows about her expect her cult

unkonoi

why do you keep calling janet plastic as if madonna hasn’t messed with her entire face multiple and janet has only had work done to her nose

Eminemfan

I respect you and your work . So i will stop . Because her numbers r open to everyone anyways. And no fan theory can change that

Analord

Note that Janet was a B lister a few days ago, then a C lister and now a D lister. Can’t wait for Eminemfan to call her an E lister 😆

My takeaway from this “debate” : some people really enjoy getting other people upset in order to start arguments, and some websites are surprisingly tolerant towards this kind of behavior.

Joseph John

I bet you Janet at 60 will be better looking, more vivacious, a better artist and touring act than embarrassing queen Madge right now. these two aren’t quitting. lets see how the final act plays out. and I love madonna. I love all queens. and Janet will be always known as the best female dancer superstar in history still unrivaled.

Eminemfan

Rofl Britney and beyonce has surpassed her as dance artists long ago. Madonna at Janets age had pulled stick sweety , mdna tour. Janet in her 50s has nowhere near the tourig power of Madonna in her 50s. Better touring act? Lmao. I am not even factoring inflation here btw!

Joseph John

no, as a technical dancer this is obvious and she can out dance most people half her age, now as recently as 2019 and 2017/2018. Britney cannot dance anymore and madonna cant either. and ive been to all their last shows + Vegas for brit. im talking a 2 hour dance set. did u go to Brooklyn for Madge’s last show? she didnt dance. a little bit but she was wobbly. she has entered more performance. im talking stamina 2 hours of super human ability. get ur shit together. now ur arguing the most basic thing everyone would agree to… Read more »

Joseph John

im not talking elaborate, mega productions stage shows with huge ridiculous sets ala Madge, u DONT GO TO JANET (now) to see others dance and big productions, its her, her back up dancers, the band. and u watch HER. the flick of the wrist, whip of a hair, a finger movement, an eye move, all perfectly – only Jacksons know this – to the beat. its great in last months Janet got so much good press and well, cant say the same about the others!

Dtew

This conversation ended shorter than I imagined🤷‍♂️

Eminemfan

By record sales rihanna outsold madonna. We use equivalents. In pure album sales by mjd
Madonna
Celine
Mariah
Barbara
Whitney
Enya
Britney
Sade
Adele
I am not sure about tina
All have more pure album sales

G.G.

Morning,
I’m still wondering why her album “Discipline” doesn’t appear on any Spotifyl streaming tally? Is it a glitch or something?

rayman

I’m not sure but I believe “Discipline” is not available on Spotify (at least in some countries) because of issues with her, at the time, label. Therefore, I assume that’s why the album doesn’t appear in Spotify’s streaming tally.

Michael Bosket

I don’t know if these are worldwide sales but it’s wrong

Control = 14 Million
Rhythm Nation = 14 Million
janet. = 20 Million
The Velvet Rope = 10 Million
All For You = 7 Million
Damita Jo = 3 Million
20 Y.O. = 1.5 Million
Discipline = 1 Million
Unbreakable = 400K
Black Diamond = TBD

Don’t know how much Janet Jackson & Dream Street sold and Design Of A Decade sold 10 million.

G.G.

HI,
Is it normal that the album “Discipline” is not on her Spotify number tool? As well, do we know what’s the “official” reason for most of her music videos not being available on Youtube when everyone’s else are?…

obro

it is possible we could get a break down on janet jacksons cspc sales by decade?

Iris

According to Twisted Brother, here are some sales for Janet. Italy – The Velvet Rope – 200,000 Janet – 125,000 Control – 100,000 Rhythm Nation – 100,000 Design of a Decade – 100,000 All For You – 60,000 Damita Jo – 10,000 20 YO – 6,000 Discipline – 5,000 Number One/The Best – 3,000 Unbreakable – 2,000 Netherlands – Control – 140,000 Janet – 140,000 The Velvet Rope – 130,000 Design of a Decade – 80,000 Rhythm Nation – 60,000 All For You – 50,000 Damita Jo – 10,000 Discipline – 6,000 20 YO – 5,000 Unbreakable – 3,000 Germany… Read more »

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