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Obv no country goes crazy for anyone even mj and Madonna weren't causing whole country to go berserk. Point is she has enough impact to be mainstream all over the world and world leaders begging her to come to their nations. You were earlier discrediting her mainstream presence and when she has clearly one. You call it hyperbole. You need to find ur next excuse martin because u r loosing in all fronts. So called unbiased editor
Lmao. That is not how it is done. Music stores reached new countries during mtv which gave unfair advantage to new divas. Piracy literally killed the industry . Streaming has brought the concept of album back . you are so convincing urself which suits ur narrative which doesn't. Just bcoz old sales are getting passed. your gen is unable to accept that and find ridiculous things to discredit at thisnpoint. you need to appreciate modern times. and how current artists are outselling older. Which u can't. You guys discredit current tours but wanna give all credit to older artists. Which is clearly bias and then call urself fair.
And current artists who r acting the game should be appreciated. If their whole catalog is getting consumed. Hence the numbers. It's not like one stream is equal to one sale. It is -1000s of streams. Infact streaming is downweighted in many charts. Which is more unfair
World is never fair. It was never fair to artists before mtv when visuals didn't exist. Visuals gave unfair advantage to Madonna mj etc
And you need to shut ur crap too. You are rigid and is unable to accept change and move with times. You are one of those yt men who think music died with rock death
It has made album king again
And i never agreed abt hyperbole. She is biggest star in world including ur country. Cope
How was it unfair, the top 4 artists of all time, all started many years prior to MTV, two of them didn't even exist by the time MTV came around.
Piracy didn't kill the industry, piracy has been around since the 60s, ever remember those "Home taping is killing the recording industry" inner sleeves in vinyl albums, what it actually done was eat into their profits and that's what they didn't like. Technology killed the industry as we knew it.
Streaming has not brought the concept of the album back, the album is dead, ever since down loading of individual tracks became a thing. People just pick and choose what tracks they want to listen to now, it's just about tracks. I do appreciate modern times and the fact that modernity and technology and the ability to pick and choose which tracks you want to buy or stream, has killed the album as we knew it. The majority of people do not buy albums anymore, they just listen to tracks. Modern artists are not out SELLING older artists, they for the most part are out streaming older artists, two completely different and separate things.
I don't give a toss about discrediting current stars or tours, I just want like for like measured and that cannot be done anymore.
One stream or any amount of streams was, is and never will be equal to a sale, they are two different things!
Get this idiotic MTV thing out of your head, as mentioned elsewhere, it didn't make MJ more successful than The Beatles and it didn't make Madonna more popular than Elvis. It didn't help Bon Jovi, Guns N Roses, Metallica etc sell more than Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd.
Tracks are king now, been that way for decades. Nobody is shifting pure albums in any great quantity, albums are just a title now given to a bunch of tracks, that are picked, chosen, listened to as people wish. The album is dead.
And you need to keep these comments to talking about what we are talking about and leave your stupid and juvenile retorts in your head or they will all end up in the trash.
She is insanely successful and easily the biggest music artist around, which I've said numerous times previously.
Yes you did. You said "Obv no country goes crazy for anyone", which by default means that if someone says "the whole country has went crazy", that is quite evidently hyperbole!
Move over Madonna, there's a new Queen of Pop, and her name is Taylor Alison Swift. Not long now until Miss Swift becomes the biggest female artist of all time.
Taylor's already in "Elvis/Beatles/Michael Jackson" territory, and she's only getting bigger!
Maybe not all of Britain went crazy, but Swift easily sets records for attendance and box office. 1.2 million people and the price of a concert ticket approx. 250 euros. 2009-2010 Michael Jackson was supposed to perform 50 times in London at the O2 arena. 750,000 tickets would be sold at a price of 50-75 pounds. These are probably the biggest businesses in the
British concert economy. Everyone can calculate the turnover, Swift will do 15 concerts in the UK.
Billie eilish is nearly as big as her. Her spotify streams with 10 songs are really impressive