Understanding: Music Clubs #2 – The Eagles, Mariah Carey

0005 - Eagles - Hotel California

Hotel California & Greatest Hits Volume II

Two more albums, both of them Diamond albums too, both of which sold mostly on the back of Hotel California single.

HOTEL CALIFORNIA 12/13/76 G
HOTEL CALIFORNIA 12/15/76 P
HOTEL CALIFORNIA 08/14/90 M (9)
HOTEL CALIFORNIA 08/12/94 M (10)
HOTEL CALIFORNIA 06/05/95 M (14)
HOTEL CALIFORNIA 01/08/99 M (15)
HOTEL CALIFORNIA 03/20/01 M (16)

GREATEST HITS VOLUME II 01/07/83 G
GREATEST HITS VOLUME II 08/17/94 P
GREATEST HITS VOLUME II 08/17/94 M (3)
GREATEST HITS VOLUME II 06/05/95 M (7)
GREATEST HITS VOLUME II 03/12/97 M (9)
GREATEST HITS VOLUME II 03/20/01 M (10)
GREATEST HITS VOLUME II 11/07/02 M (11)

As you can guess, Hotel California album was a huge #1 back in 1976. On its side, Greatest Hits Volume II, covering barely two studio albums that each sold bucket loads on their own, peaked at a low #52 position. Hotel California single is so strong though that it led both, the studio album and the compilation, to incredible sales in the end.

What must be noted on their respective certifications is that both albums followed the same audits as Greatest Hits 1971-1975. In fact, despite being certified in August 1994, after the rules change, Club sales were added only on June 1995 audit for those albums too. In 2016 this does still happen as after Sales Plus Streaming were made eligible various albums were certified as in the old days, based on their own sales alone.

So, what can we say about those two albums Club sales? Unlike Greatest Hits 1971-1975, both were Columbia exclusives, not selling copies at BMG end. Starting with Hotel California, the three relevant certifications are listed below.

HOTEL CALIFORNIA 08/12/94 M (10)
HOTEL CALIFORNIA 06/05/95 M (14)
HOTEL CALIFORNIA 03/20/01 M (16)

Using the same method as previously, we will assume 10,9 million eligible sales by August 1994 to deduce the minimum Club sales it managed. By June 1995, it added 250,000 copies at Soundscan retailers. To reach over 14 million by that date, from the starting 11,15 million, it implies at least 2,85 million Club sales. By March 2001, the album had climbed to 16 million. Since its last certification the record had sold a bit more than 600,000 units. This puts Clubs estimate at 4,25 million units by that date, let round it at 4,3 million up to now as they went downhill just after. The record sold an additional 800,000 units since its last award.

Using the same logic for Greatest Hits Volume II thanks to below certifications gives us at least 5,75 million Club sales along with 900,000 copies sold since the last award.

GREATEST HITS VOLUME II 08/17/94 M (3)
GREATEST HITS VOLUME II 06/05/95 M (7)
GREATEST HITS VOLUME II 11/07/02 M (11)

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Luminator

I noticed that – against the analysis that you give in this article – that both Mariah’s “Merry Christmas” and “Rainbow” actually were available through the Columbia House music club. They even had regular catalog numbers: Mariah Carey – Merry Christmas (Columbia) – 112789 Available as of 1995: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/82467713/ As of 2001: https://archive.org/details/universityofmemp2001unse –> page 142 Mariah Carey – Rainbow (Columbia) 324608 Available as of October 2000: https://newspaperarchive.com/madison-wisconsin-state-journal-oct-22-2000-p-857/ As of 2001: https://archive.org/details/universityofmemp2001unse –> page 137 “Rainbow” is even presented with a picture, which sets it apart from less popular albums. How does that go together with your claim that both… Read more »

puffygucci

hello i dont really understand whats the unsold units?

Susie

Hey MJD, can you post a breakdown for Ariana Grande sales, please?

P.S.: I loved the new site <3

anthony

Hi dear MJD !!!

congratulations for the beautiful articles for Music Clubs 1 and 2. This weekend do you will realize CSPC analysis of some singer or groups ?
I hope you realize CSPC analysis of The Beatles !!!

Aurélien

Sting is about to release a new album, let’s hope he – along with his band, The Police – are among those who will be treated next!

Gustavo

Fantastic job, as usual. I would like to see how high “Merry Christmas” can get if Sony requests an audit for it + streaming inclusion… it could easily get 7 platinum.

I also wonder if Eagles’ “Greatest hits” can keep up the competition with “Thriller”… it seems unlikely now that streaming is a factor.

Luminator

I have one further remark: I totally agree with you on all your estimations, but i find Rainbow’s shipment of 3,5 million a tad bit too low. Isn’t it reasonable to estimate 3,6-3,7 million considering the inaccuracy of SoundScan and further shipments?

I would be very grateful if you’d have a word on this remark!

Thanks in advance!

Luminator

Thank you! I guess the 4,…. numbers were a typo! Of course we’re talking about the 3,…. -range 😉

Stephen

This is so well explained. Must have taken a lot of time too. Seriously, thank you!

Luminator

Thank you so much MJ! You really invested a lot of your time for Mariah and cleared up all the stupid discussion concerning her “fake diamond albums”!

I hope to see her overall CSPC article very soon! It’s about time 😉

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