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"If you were more familiar with Genesis’ history/catalog/legacy and each member’s share of composition, then you’d never state such inanity, even if fast-paced MTV kiddies like to equate Phil Collins = Genesis."
How polite and respectful, I can see now why you're so upset at you-know-who for using insults...
Anyway, I can quote you dozens of articles describing Phil Collins as the "leader of Genesis", after he left their next album sold 1m copies (vs 14m for the previous one) because indeed he was Genesis in the eyes of the public, which is what matters here (popularity). And I know about the band and their "share of composition", I said he was a co-songwriter in my previous post.
Could you post links to those quotes? I'd like to see them, because that goes completely against what I'd taken from watching documentaries and interviews with the actual members.
OK, please no offense. What I wrote was that if such term as "Genesis was Phil Collins' band" is your personal opinion, then you may not have a sufficient idea of Genesis, what fast-paced MTV kiddies always thought. That's what I said to you! I never said something like "You are like those fast-paced MTV kiddies."
Analord, I've followed some the discussions you've been involved to and several like Martin or NikWag reactions let conclude you accuse them things they never did. I don't want to clash with you or anyone here, but please read carefully before accusing me that I insulted you.
Regarding to your articles describing "Phil Collins as the leader of Genesis"... I vaguely remember a discussion with you about the creditability of music magazines or “music critics”. We came to the conclusion then that we both had different opinions on that, didn't we? To bring it home again, I don't give a damn what is written in any articles by so-called music journalists because they are absolutely irrelevant to me. If you've forgotten my reasoning behind my opinion of her, re-read my old posts (I think it was in the MJ discussion).
And another point. Indeed, I can imagine you've studied some songwriting credits included on Genesis releases. But that's not what I meant when I said, being familiar with member's share of composition. Even when there stands "Written by Banks/Collins/Rutherford." most elements of the music have mostly come from Banks/Rutherford, especially Banks. Collins wrote some lyrics, was responsible for a huge part of arrangements and his most important role in Genesis:
With his visual and his vocal/drumming presence, Phil Collins accelerated Genesis music to commercial success.
You named the comparison in sales between We Can't Dance (1991) and ...Calling All Stations... (1997). Have you ever compared both albums directly? If yes, then you should have noticed the common things: same co-producer (Nick Davis), same kind of recording equipment, similar harmonic and instrumental structure. But the difference was, there was no Phil Collins with his characteristic appearance anymore to bring it to audience. But that doesn't mean that it was his band or anything like that. And if anyone claims both Genesis and Phil Collins can be confused, then he has no idea of anything or is just a fast-paced MTV kiddie as I said.
With such a view I am not alone. And believe me, I guess you won't find such description in any of your dozens of "quality journalism" articles.
Hello MJD!
Why have Phil Collins' streams been lowered downwards? Previously he had over 7,000,000 EAS and now suddenly only 6,625,000.
Several artist have reduced streams how Metallica or Celine Dion. Both lost about 2 milions.
New ratios have been developed, based on how the market has developed over the past few years and have now been applied to all artists. So, as you are seeing, artists totals have went up or down, after yesterdays update.
