CSPC Voting System

Below ranking lists the votes of our users to know artists to be treated next on our CSPC series.

The weight of artists is based on expected sales. Weight 4 represents the biggest omissions up to date, 1 the weakest ones.

If you would like to vote too, please follow this link.


CSPC votes: the leaderboard

#ArtistWeightVotesScore
1Deep Purple3144432
2Jimi Hendrix3133399
3Luis Miguel3110330
4Marvin Gaye382246
5Iron Maiden380240
6R.E.M.439156
7Frank Sinatra438152
8Vladimir Vysotsky343129
9Johnny Cash341123
10Julio Iglesias429116
11Bing Crosby425100
12The Beach Boys425100
13Adriano Celentano24998
14Genesis42080
15Diana Ross32678
16Def Leppard32575
17Tina Turner32575
182Pac32472
19Scorpions32369
20Blondie23060
21Aretha Franklin32060
22Boyz II Men22856
23EXO22652
24Pearl Jam31751
25Kanye West22448
26A.R. Rahman22346
27Namie Amuro22346
28BigBang22244
29Ricky Martin22244
30Kiss31442
31Jay-Z22142
32B'z31339
33Ace Of Base21938
34Foreigner31133
35Lionel Richie31030
36Ray Charles31030
37Xuxa31030
38Roberto Carlos3927
39Dr Dre21326
40Hikaru Utada21326
41Neil Diamond4624
42Willie Nelson4624
43Gloria Estefan3824
44Eros Ramazzotti21122
45Mina21122
46Lenny Kravitz21122
47Depeche Mode3721
48Carpenters4520
49Yumi Matsutoya21020
50Lynyrd Skynyrd21020
51Dolly Parton12020
52Cyndi Lauper11919
53Toni Braxton2918
54Jay Chou2816
55James Brown3515
56ZZ Top3515
57Cliff Richard3515
58Simply Red3412
59Reba McEntire3412
6050 Cent2612
61A-ha2510
62Arashi2510
63Motley Crue11010
64Miles Davis339
65Alan Jackson339
66Rush339
67Alejandro Sanz248
68Lil Wayne248
69Whitesnake177
70Earth, Wind & Fire326
71Jewel236
72Andrea Bocelli326
73Kenny G326
74Linda Ronstadt326
75MC Hammer236
76Duran Duran236
77Paula Abdul144
78Chicago414
79Beastie Boys224
80Eric Clapton414
81Janis Joplin224
82Offspring224
83Kenny Rogers414
84Nana Mouskouri133
85Barry White313
86Grateful Dead133
87Mr. Children313
88The Who313
89Bob Seger313
90John Cougar Mellencamp212
91Creed212
92Will Smith212
93Luther Vandross212
94Matchbox 20212
95Dreams Come True212
96Luciano Pavarotti212
97Carole King212
98Demis Roussos212
99Aqua212
100Boney M212
101Jethro Tull212
102Limp Bizkit111
103Billy Ray Cyrus100
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A.B.

Hello, I am very surprised to see Big Bang here on the list, why? Why they are considered to be here on the list but Blackpink is not ? I just did some fast digging on BB physical sales, they only have around 6m physicals sold based on older data, but since they have been absolutely inactive in past few years not much changed in there data. first of all physicals are just +- 3m more than BP, but there streaming – spotify, YT is just few streams, On the other hand they do have digitals, but i wonder what… Read more »

Al

It’s down to their insane download sales really. Their streams are really strong too, especially in China.

The requirement for the list is about 30m CSPC which Blackpink hasn’t reached yet, although I can see both them and Twice getting there in a year or two.

Last edited 5 days ago by Al
A.B.

Is there a deduction of some kind for Chinese downloads or it’s all counted normally and then weight… ?

Al

For albums we use sales*(price in Yuan/50).

Singles are treated the same way from now on I think

With this formula they have 682,000 CSPC from albums and 269,000 CSPC from singles in the DL format there.

Last edited 4 days ago by Al
linex-

Do you count all korean downloads the same? I remember starting from certain year they increased their price which is why older artists have insane numbers. Without mentioning gaon is streaming based since 2018 and downloads are kinda dead now.

I feel like artists have comparatively a harder time gaining equivalent album sales purely through streaming now, making the totals for older acts seem inflated to me

Al

You are not wrong. A good chunk of SK DLs were not paid for or achieved through subscription like services etc. In the case of International artists they represent non-Japanese Asian sales rather than Korean ones exclusively since places like South East Asia, China etc had pretty big ringtone markets with little data to estimate from. So in the case of Korean artists which aren’t as big outside SK as inside it definitely inflates them to some degree. Although Big Bang were huge all over Asia so I’m not sure if it’s a good argument against them specifically. But I… Read more »

Last edited 3 days ago by Al
linex-

Thanks for the answer, looking forward to the next studied artists

Fanofpop

How close is IU to making the list?
she should have around 20m cspc in singles right, could she reach it in a few years?

Al

Hard to tell, she had like 90m charted Gaon DLs so that’s like 14m+ from them alone, not to mention uncharted sales. But we need to subtract a good share of them, but I don’t know at what rate.

On the other hand has her Spotify streams tripled since I did her streaming masters article. She’s selling way more albums and Chinese DLs these days and is bigger in most East and South East Asian markets now than she’s ever been too so she might get there in a few years.

Last edited 2 days ago by Al
Bhai

Blackpink

A.B.

Yes, I want BLACKPINK too, but from what I know they take artists that have 30m CSPC estimated+-, BP is a bit short on that, But don’t worry we have Consistently biggest streaming numbers across all Platforms, and biggest digital’s in comparison to all other GG’s, We just need to get bit more physicals, According to IFPI The Album sold 3m+ Pure copies, so just few more years and we can start to calculate when we will be able to beat Spice Girls:) It’s good to know that you don’t need to sell 40m physicals and you can beat other… Read more »

Last edited 6 days ago by A.B.
Kenfancypants22

Maybe I missed it, but do your points reset?
If so, is it every month, or after a new artist is studied? (Is it only the people that used points for last artist studied?)
Thanks

Rell

When is the Deep Purple analysis supposed to be published ? 🙂

ojd

They’re doing Neil Young first

obro

this is unrelated but what do you think diana + the supremes combined total will come to

Rodolfo Queiroz Laterza

I am waiting for it so long

Fanofpop

What do the tiers mean
like tier 1-4, I get it’s something to do with cspc
Also if a foreign artist sold 70m and a int artist sold 70m would they be in the same tier?

Martin

They represent an unstudied artists, expected CSPC total, with 4 being given to artists with the highest expected totals and 1 to artists with the lowest expected totals.

Yes.

Last edited 1 month ago by Martin
Fanofpop

What kind of numbers are required for each tier?
Is it something like 100m+ for tier 1, 85m+ for tier 2 70m+ for tier 3, 50m+ for tier 4?
I understand these are estimates subject to error Prior to being studied.

Fanofpop

Thank you so much

worldcitizen

Would any of these artists be eligible for requests?
English/International:
The Temptations, The Isley Brothers, Snoop Dogg, Hall & Oates, Heart, John Mayer, Josh Groban, Nat King Cole, Johnny Mathis, Sheryl Crow, Faith Hill, Anne Murray, Joni Mitchell, LeAnn Rimes, Sarah McLachlan, Enigma, Pet Shop Boys, Milli Vanilli, INXS and Savage Garden.

Non-English/Local:
Bad Bunny, J Balvin, Ozuna, Daddy Yankee, Laura Pausini, Zucchero, Peter Maffay and Marius Müller-Westernhagen.

Last edited 1 month ago by worldcitizen
Al

Hi worldcitizen! Among the International acts you mention here I doubt most of them reach any of the criteria, except INXS with “Kick” maybe. Nat King Cole is already in the voting list. For the local acts many of these are indeed close calls. I don’t think the two Italians sold enough. The Latin acts should get there rather soon I think, especially Bad Bunny. The Germans are a bit harder to say for sure about due to so high certification levels in Germany at the time. I can see on discogs that Peter Maffay has some healthy GDR sales… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by Al
Jazz

Olivia Newton John should be added to the list

Antonio

Hi guys
I wanted to ask something to MJD, in his old forum Chart in France, he analyzed Zucchero Fornaciari and his best of of 1996 totaled 3,700,000 worldwide estimates of which:
The Best Of (1996)
Europe: 3,520,000
– France: 800,000
– Allemagne: 600,000
– Italy: 1,150,000
– Pays-Bas: 80,000
– Suisse: 150,000
– Autriche: 90,000
Estimations Mondiales: 3,700,000

however I cannot find this collection in the French chars, I would like to have clarifications about it, I hope you answer me

Last edited 28 days ago by Antonio
Antonio

Hello MJD and member of chartsmasters.org !!

Even if i’m not a paid member, i’d like to see Toto analyzed I think I will only deserve to be analyzed also for their 2 celebry songs like Africa and Hold the line which are respectively on Spotify with 961.796.450 plays and 324.003.674 plays I hope you answer me.

Al

Hi!
Thanks for bringing up Toto. They might meet the 15m for an album requirement with Toto IV when I think about it, I’ll see if we can add them to the voting.
Btw, you can give 3 votes for free just by registering 😉

Last edited 1 month ago by Al
Antonio

thank you Al, I would be very pleased if you add Toto too, you were very kind to answer me right away.

Antonio

Hi Al !!!

Since you are a very polite person, I would like to ask you if they could update U2, they think that after their last studio album Songs of Experience we have perhaps exceeded 200 million equivalent albums sales.
I hope you answer me.

Al

Hi again!

I won’t rule out the possibility of a voting page for artist updates similar to this one in the future.

Analord

It’s a little strange to not see Clapton on the list, I know MJD had him at 130m albums over 10 years ago, and that wasn’t even including his many successful bands like Cream or Derek & The Dominos…

I voted for Genesis though 😆 I think it would be a nice companion piece to the Phil Collins article.

Al

You can vote for him actually, the biggest surprise is that no one have!

Analord

I just realized that Rod Stewart’s CSPC total includes the Faces albums (even though he only sang on half of their songs), so that means Clapton’s total should probably include the Cream and Derek & The Dominos albums, and that would mean a CSPC total of maybe… 165 million ? Close to Mariah Carey ? Doesn’t that mean he should be studied ?

Al

Not sure what will be included, but as I said you can vote for him. He’s definitely well past 100m regardless.

Last edited 1 month ago by Al
Analord

Well sure, I can vote for him, and then he will be… 73rd in the list ?

My point is, I think it’s weird than someone who’s potentially top 20 of all time isn’t planned to be studied.

Al

The artists you can vote for are exactly artists we will study. He has the weighting of 4 too because he’s such a big seller, if you give 3 votes to him he will enter the top 50. I’m definitely voting for him in the next round as well.

ojd

Who do you think the highest seller not studied yet is? Other than Frank Sinatra who I’m assuming is the biggest

and how’s the wighting done is it 4 is everyone over 100m, 3 is everyone over 70m, 2 is 50m, 1 is has an album over 15

Last edited 1 month ago by ojd
Al

Neil Diamond Eric Clapton are the only one left (outside of Frank) that has a shot at 150m I think.

There are a few more likely 100m+ sellers, The Beach Boys probably lead among these. The 4 weighting doesn’t necessarily mean they are over 100m, it’s just a good possibility based on old estimates. Here are some big wildcards too like Johnny Cash and Roberto Carlos with a 3 weighting,

obro

thank you so much! Although I haven’t voted for hi, I’m actually excited for a Neil Diamond analysis because Sweet Caroline is seemingly his only song that’s stood the test of time commercially speaking and with the amount of compilations he sold it must have a very large CSPC total

Al

Absolutely! I will be very surprised if it’s no the biggest song we haven’t studied

Rell

I’m really surprised to see Vysotsky on that list. I barely knew his name and didn’t think he had been so popular. Must have been a USSR-only singer.

Al

Hehe, he’s definitely one of the artists few would expect here. I uncovered a bit of his sales from USSR shipment codes in this article. His numbers there are quite stunning for sure.

Last edited 1 month ago by Al
Dan

But how could you study him, if tons of his releases are missing from the USSR post (not just for Vysotski, for everyone)?

Al

Most of his major releases seem covered by codes. I just wasn’t in the mood for checking all for him entirely until his eventual CSPC article, we’re talking several hundreds of receipts here. So the 17m I got back then is far from the total all his codes will cover. I suppose we’ll see what to do when all his available codes are collected. Discogs owner data will for sure be to big help to fill holes here. I haven’t checked what info local newspapers etc posted about him back then too. We’ve never studied a Russian act before either… Read more »

Last edited 1 month ago by Al
L145

i know they haven’t been studied yet, but how much do you think Jay-Z and Kanye’s total CSPC number is

Dan

500m EAS each

Jamie

is it cocain or LSD

Fanofpop

Probably around 80m and 65m respectively if I were to guess. Could be very very off though.
We’ll just have to wait for MJD to get through them coz there’s a lot of more requested artists left ig.

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