CSPC Voting System

Below ranking lists the votes of our users to know artists to be treated next on our CSPC series.

The weight of artists is based on expected sales. Weight 4 represents the biggest omissions up to date, 1 the weakest ones.

If you would like to vote too, please follow this link.


CSPC votes: the leaderboard

#ArtistWeightVotesScore
1Hikaru Utada2269538
2R.E.M.4121484
3Xuxa3128384
4Luis Miguel3122366
5Iron Maiden391273
6Jimi Hendrix382246
7Frank Sinatra443172
8Julio Iglesias439156
9Genesis438152
10Vladimir Vysotsky345135
11Johnny Cash343129
122Pac339117
13Aretha Franklin337111
14BigBang255110
15Tina Turner33193
16Pearl Jam33090
17Bing Crosby42288
18EXO24386
19Marvin Gaye32781
20Kanye West23876
21A.R. Rahman23774
22Roberto Carlos32472
23Jay-Z23570
24Scorpions32369
25Eric Clapton41664
26Namie Amuro23060
27Blondie22958
28Boyz II Men22754
29Ricky Martin22448
30B'z31545
31Def Leppard31545
32Diana Ross31545
33Ace Of Base22244
34Kiss31442
35Adriano Celentano21836
36Dr Dre21734
37Foreigner31133
38Carpenters4832
39Lionel Richie31030
40Ray Charles31030
41The Beach Boys4728
42Mina21428
43Lenny Kravitz21224
44Cyndi Lauper12424
45Gloria Estefan3824
46Eros Ramazzotti21224
47James Brown3721
48Depeche Mode3721
49Dolly Parton12121
50Toni Braxton21020
51A-ha21020
5250 Cent21020
53Alan Jackson3618
54Jay Chou2816
55The Who3515
56Simply Red3515
57ZZ Top3515
58Cliff Richard3515
59Alejandro Sanz2714
60Motley Crue11010
61James Last11010
62Reba McEntire339
63Andrea Bocelli339
64Miles Davis339
65Rush339
66Kenny G339
67Earth, Wind & Fire339
68Arashi248
69MC Hammer248
70Will Smith248
71Lil Wayne248
72Whitesnake177
73Linda Ronstadt326
74Duran Duran236
75Paula Abdul166
76Jewel236
77Alabama326
78Alla Pugacheva236
79Billy Ray Cyrus155
80Janis Joplin224
81Offspring224
82Demis Roussos224
83Chicago414
84REO Speedwagon224
85Beastie Boys224
86Carole King224
87Willie Nelson414
88Aqua224
89Neil Diamond414
90Kenny Rogers414
91Barry White313
92Nana Mouskouri133
93Bob Seger313
94Tom Petty313
95Lynyrd Skynyrd212
96Creed212
97Herbert Grönemeyer212
98Jethro Tull212
99Dixie Chicks212
100Jimmy Buffett212
101Kid Rock212
102Luther Vandross212
103John Cougar Mellencamp212
104Matchbox 20212
105Boney M212
106Luciano Pavarotti212
107Limp Bizkit111
108Grateful Dead111
109Juan Gabriel200
110Mr. Children300
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A.B.

Hello, I am very surprised to see Big Bang here on the list, why? Why they are considered to be here on the list but Blackpink is not ? I just did some fast digging on BB physical sales, they only have around 6m physicals sold based on older data, but since they have been absolutely inactive in past few years not much changed in there data. first of all physicals are just +- 3m more than BP, but there streaming – spotify, YT is just few streams, On the other hand they do have digitals, but i wonder what… Read more »

Al

It’s down to their insane download sales really. Their streams are really strong too, especially in China.

The requirement for the list is about 30m CSPC which Blackpink hasn’t reached yet, although I can see both them and Twice getting there in a year or two.

Last edited 2 months ago by Al
A.B.

Is there a deduction of some kind for Chinese downloads or it’s all counted normally and then weight… ?

Al

For albums we use sales*(price in Yuan/50).

Singles are treated the same way from now on I think

With this formula they have 682,000 CSPC from albums and 269,000 CSPC from singles in the DL format there.

Last edited 2 months ago by Al
noct1

Do you count all korean downloads the same? I remember starting from certain year they increased their price which is why older artists have insane numbers. Without mentioning gaon is streaming based since 2018 and downloads are kinda dead now.

I feel like artists have comparatively a harder time gaining equivalent album sales purely through streaming now, making the totals for older acts seem inflated to me

Al

You are not wrong. A good chunk of SK DLs were not paid for or achieved through subscription like services etc. In the case of International artists they represent non-Japanese Asian sales rather than Korean ones exclusively since places like South East Asia, China etc had pretty big ringtone markets with little data to estimate from. So in the case of Korean artists which aren’t as big outside SK as inside it definitely inflates them to some degree. Although Big Bang were huge all over Asia so I’m not sure if it’s a good argument against them specifically. But I… Read more »

Last edited 2 months ago by Al
noct1

Thanks for the answer, looking forward to the next studied artists

Fanofpop

How close is IU to making the list?
she should have around 20m cspc in singles right, could she reach it in a few years?

Al

Hard to tell, she had like 90m charted Gaon DLs so that’s like 14m+ from them alone, not to mention uncharted sales. But we need to subtract a good share of them, but I don’t know at what rate.

On the other hand has her Spotify streams tripled since I did her streaming masters article. She’s selling way more albums and Chinese DLs these days and is bigger in most East and South East Asian markets now than she’s ever been too so she might get there in a few years.

Last edited 2 months ago by Al
Bhai

Blackpink

A.B.

Yes, I want BLACKPINK too, but from what I know they take artists that have 30m CSPC estimated+-, BP is a bit short on that, But don’t worry we have Consistently biggest streaming numbers across all Platforms, and biggest digital’s in comparison to all other GG’s, We just need to get bit more physicals, According to IFPI The Album sold 3m+ Pure copies, so just few more years and we can start to calculate when we will be able to beat Spice Girls:) It’s good to know that you don’t need to sell 40m physicals and you can beat other… Read more »

Last edited 2 months ago by Aivaras
Kenfancypants22

Maybe I missed it, but do your points reset?
If so, is it every month, or after a new artist is studied? (Is it only the people that used points for last artist studied?)
Thanks

Rell

When is the Deep Purple analysis supposed to be published ? 🙂

ojd

They’re doing Neil Young first

obro

this is unrelated but what do you think diana + the supremes combined total will come to

Fanofpop

I understand there is a lot of work in each and every cspc and we are all grateful for the work you do. Is there a chance we will get Neil Young this month? When is the current ETA for him?

borderwolf

Don’t forget: is Neil Young + CSNY + Buffalo Springfield. But it’s coming very soon! 😉

cass

I presume it’s not the solo albums of Crosby Stills and Nash as well? So not the whole collective?

Rodolfo Queiroz Laterza

I am waiting for it so long

Fanofpop

What do the tiers mean
like tier 1-4, I get it’s something to do with cspc
Also if a foreign artist sold 70m and a int artist sold 70m would they be in the same tier?

Martin

They represent an unstudied artists, expected CSPC total, with 4 being given to artists with the highest expected totals and 1 to artists with the lowest expected totals.

Yes.

Last edited 3 months ago by Martin
Fanofpop

What kind of numbers are required for each tier?
Is it something like 100m+ for tier 1, 85m+ for tier 2 70m+ for tier 3, 50m+ for tier 4?
I understand these are estimates subject to error Prior to being studied.

Fanofpop

Thank you so much

worldcitizen

Would any of these artists be eligible for requests?
English/International:
The Temptations, The Isley Brothers, Snoop Dogg, Hall & Oates, Heart, John Mayer, Josh Groban, Nat King Cole, Johnny Mathis, Sheryl Crow, Faith Hill, Anne Murray, Joni Mitchell, LeAnn Rimes, Sarah McLachlan, Enigma, Pet Shop Boys, Milli Vanilli, INXS and Savage Garden.

Non-English/Local:
Bad Bunny, J Balvin, Ozuna, Daddy Yankee, Laura Pausini, Zucchero, Peter Maffay and Marius Müller-Westernhagen.

Last edited 3 months ago by worldcitizen
Al

Hi worldcitizen! Among the International acts you mention here I doubt most of them reach any of the criteria, except INXS with “Kick” maybe. Nat King Cole is already in the voting list. For the local acts many of these are indeed close calls. I don’t think the two Italians sold enough. The Latin acts should get there rather soon I think, especially Bad Bunny. The Germans are a bit harder to say for sure about due to so high certification levels in Germany at the time. I can see on discogs that Peter Maffay has some healthy GDR sales… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by Al
Jazz

Olivia Newton John should be added to the list

Antonio

Hi guys
I wanted to ask something to MJD, in his old forum Chart in France, he analyzed Zucchero Fornaciari and his best of of 1996 totaled 3,700,000 worldwide estimates of which:
The Best Of (1996)
Europe: 3,520,000
– France: 800,000
– Allemagne: 600,000
– Italy: 1,150,000
– Pays-Bas: 80,000
– Suisse: 150,000
– Autriche: 90,000
Estimations Mondiales: 3,700,000

however I cannot find this collection in the French chars, I would like to have clarifications about it, I hope you answer me

Last edited 3 months ago by Antonio
Antonio

Hello MJD and member of chartsmasters.org !!

Even if i’m not a paid member, i’d like to see Toto analyzed I think I will only deserve to be analyzed also for their 2 celebry songs like Africa and Hold the line which are respectively on Spotify with 961.796.450 plays and 324.003.674 plays I hope you answer me.

Al

Hi!
Thanks for bringing up Toto. They might meet the 15m for an album requirement with Toto IV when I think about it, I’ll see if we can add them to the voting.
Btw, you can give 3 votes for free just by registering 😉

Last edited 3 months ago by Al
Antonio

thank you Al, I would be very pleased if you add Toto too, you were very kind to answer me right away.

Antonio

Hi Al !!!

Since you are a very polite person, I would like to ask you if they could update U2, they think that after their last studio album Songs of Experience we have perhaps exceeded 200 million equivalent albums sales.
I hope you answer me.

Al

Hi again!

I won’t rule out the possibility of a voting page for artist updates similar to this one in the future.

Analord

It’s a little strange to not see Clapton on the list, I know MJD had him at 130m albums over 10 years ago, and that wasn’t even including his many successful bands like Cream or Derek & The Dominos…

I voted for Genesis though 😆 I think it would be a nice companion piece to the Phil Collins article.

Al

You can vote for him actually, the biggest surprise is that no one have!

Analord

I just realized that Rod Stewart’s CSPC total includes the Faces albums (even though he only sang on half of their songs), so that means Clapton’s total should probably include the Cream and Derek & The Dominos albums, and that would mean a CSPC total of maybe… 165 million ? Close to Mariah Carey ? Doesn’t that mean he should be studied ?

Al

Not sure what will be included, but as I said you can vote for him. He’s definitely well past 100m regardless.

Last edited 3 months ago by Al
Analord

Well sure, I can vote for him, and then he will be… 73rd in the list ?

My point is, I think it’s weird than someone who’s potentially top 20 of all time isn’t planned to be studied.

Al

The artists you can vote for are exactly artists we will study. He has the weighting of 4 too because he’s such a big seller, if you give 3 votes to him he will enter the top 50. I’m definitely voting for him in the next round as well.

ojd

Who do you think the highest seller not studied yet is? Other than Frank Sinatra who I’m assuming is the biggest

and how’s the wighting done is it 4 is everyone over 100m, 3 is everyone over 70m, 2 is 50m, 1 is has an album over 15

Last edited 3 months ago by ojd
Al

Neil Diamond Eric Clapton are the only one left (outside of Frank) that has a shot at 150m I think.

There are a few more likely 100m+ sellers, The Beach Boys probably lead among these. The 4 weighting doesn’t necessarily mean they are over 100m, it’s just a good possibility based on old estimates. Here are some big wildcards too like Johnny Cash and Roberto Carlos with a 3 weighting,

obro

thank you so much! Although I haven’t voted for hi, I’m actually excited for a Neil Diamond analysis because Sweet Caroline is seemingly his only song that’s stood the test of time commercially speaking and with the amount of compilations he sold it must have a very large CSPC total

Al

Absolutely! I will be very surprised if it’s no the biggest song we haven’t studied

Rell

I’m really surprised to see Vysotsky on that list. I barely knew his name and didn’t think he had been so popular. Must have been a USSR-only singer.

Al

Hehe, he’s definitely one of the artists few would expect here. I uncovered a bit of his sales from USSR shipment codes in this article. His numbers there are quite stunning for sure.

Last edited 4 months ago by Al
Dan

But how could you study him, if tons of his releases are missing from the USSR post (not just for Vysotski, for everyone)?

Al

Most of his major releases seem covered by codes. I just wasn’t in the mood for checking all for him entirely until his eventual CSPC article, we’re talking several hundreds of receipts here. So the 17m I got back then is far from the total all his codes will cover. I suppose we’ll see what to do when all his available codes are collected. Discogs owner data will for sure be to big help to fill holes here. I haven’t checked what info local newspapers etc posted about him back then too. We’ve never studied a Russian act before either… Read more »

Last edited 3 months ago by Al
L145

i know they haven’t been studied yet, but how much do you think Jay-Z and Kanye’s total CSPC number is

Dan

500m EAS each

Jamie

is it cocain or LSD

Fanofpop

Probably around 80m and 65m respectively if I were to guess. Could be very very off though.
We’ll just have to wait for MJD to get through them coz there’s a lot of more requested artists left ig.

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