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I refer to different group. Elvis is arguably the biggest male solo, and Barbra is the female version, too. But never Queen & Elton, the former is not part of top3 band even, the later may be out of top3. Off course, Bands and males outsold the same rank of female ones, but Madonna is creditd best or biggest not Elton or Queen. They all sold much less than the no1 in the group. They are better or bigger but not best seller, there's a girl with best grade in your class rather than someone in total top 10
I don't care about splitting things into male, female or group categories, sex/gender has no bearing on music or musical sales. It is not like athletics, where due to physical difference, there is a need to measure just males against males & females against females. Being the biggest female (or male or band) has no meaning, as there are no specific or different attributes or deficiencies, gained or lost by being a female or male soloist or group.
I just want to see the best selling artists and Queen & Elton are, they have clearly sold far more than you think. Also (although not that it matters), I believe Barbara will place lower or about the same place amongst females, as Queen & Elton will place amongst groups & male soloists and they will both be above her overall and in the Top 10.
Barbara I imagine will easily fall behind Madonna, Celine & probably Mariah, Queen will probably fall behind the Beatles but won't be far away from Pink Floyd & The Rolling Stones and the only male soloists I'd put above Elton is Michael.
No, in reality I'd say Queen are probably over 2:1 but not quite 3:1, over Barbara.
Hi HengeBoy,
Yes, Sam Smith is among the artists to come during the next weeks 🙂
Queen and Elton John may not finish that far behind Madonna in the final ranking. It will all depend on their albums sales which, with new formulas, may be affected and probably more than I'm thinking. They will be an interesting case, as will Elvis Presley and Barbra Streisand. All of them will be studied eventually but they will take time as they are all tough.
In the meantime, new acts have to be covered too as they are necessary to calculate annual charts for recent years and because -let's be honest- there is probably more interest in them than in old acts.
Quoting the RIAA Write up on Michael Jackson's Thriller February 16, 2017
Michael Jackson’s Thriller has become the first album in RIAA Gold & Platinum Program history to be certified 33x Diamond as it reaches 33m US sales and streams.
Thriller is still the only album ever to have surpassed the RIAA’s 30 million mark in US sales.
Worldwide, its total now tops over 105 million copies. Jackson’s overall worldwide record sales exceed 1 billion.
His seventh album Bad has also achieved RIAA 10x Diamond Award status in recognition of US sales and streams of 10m units.
During his career, Jackson released 13 No.1 singles and became one of only a handful of artists to be inducted twice into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame."
How does their estimation of 1 Billion overall Album sales worldwide fear with yours?
And why are we discussing other artists on here when this break down pertains to Michael Jackson?
And I fully agree that if these false accusations, that surprisingly started in 1993 literally overnight thanks to the works of Diane Diamond and her sidekick Tom Sneddon who kept quiet about the fact that he had over 100 pedophile priests in his district and blew up as a scandalous story mere weeks before Diane took the worlds eyes off of the Catholic Priests and the Vatican by blowing up the Michael Jackson Accusation without Facts, Evidence, which completely erased the Pedo Priest scandal from the public eyes. Coincidence, I don't think so. Sneddon couldn't stand Michael Jackson, his fame, his residency in his constituency and Neverland which is suppose to be a oil gold mine and they wanted MJ off from there using all means they could muster. No Black entertainer, with such a worldwide influence on the public, should have that much power.
Sometimes people need to think outside the box.
I completely agree with the excitement of the biggest acts being evaluated.......it's only natural.
So although there is an argument here and there about a select few......I'm sure we all can agree on the remaining top 10 to 20 best sellers.
Let's make a list of the most likely artists/groups that haven't been done yet.
Here's mine (in no particular order)
1. Elvis Presley
2. Elton John
3. Queen (maybe add Freddie Mercury solo)
4. Barbara Streisand
5. Frank Sinatra
6. Bing Crosby
7. Garth Brooks
8. AC/DC
9. Phil Collins/Genesis
10. Rod Stewart (add faces and jeff beck)
11. Cliff Richard/Shadows????
12. Sting/Police
13. Paul McCartney
14. Prince
15. 2Pac (just a guess on this one)
16. Eagles (I'd like to see Don Henley solo career added too)
17. Robbie Williams/Take That
18. Aerosmith
19. Journey (19 and 20 are negligible and totally up for debate) (add Steve Perry solo career)
20. Chicago (add Peter Cetera solo career)
1. Barara Streisand
2. Frank Sinatra
3. Elvis Presley
4. Bing Crosby
5. Diana Ross
6. Aretha Franklin
Hi Nathan!
You should add the likes Neil Diamond, Bob Marley, Claptan, Santana, Simon & Garfunkel and the Beach Boys who definitely outsold the likes Journey, Chicago, Robbie, Sting, Bing Crosby or Robbie.
Hi Elke,
The RIAA does not make "estimations", let alone about Worldwide sales. They have 0 authority on that point and are barely quoting the nonsense written here and there. Thinking outside the box is also not sticking with the most copy/pasted nonsense around!
Also, I don't think you can seriously blame people to be out of the subject speaking of sales of other acts while you go on with Vatican, priests, Sneddon etc garbage. The subject isn't MJ, it is his charts & sales achievements.
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