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(@KantClark)
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Speaking only about album sales was Britney. Looking for all aspects and considering that Bey was big with DC's too, definitly Beyoncé was the biggest female act of 00's.


   
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(@Musicfan)
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The way she just stopped caring about charts is stupid. Both 4 and BEYONCÉ could've been bigger if she would have just gave the world iasf 2.0-3.0


   
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(@Musicfan)
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What about her US top 10 digital singles? Has single ladies topped 5.8M or halo 4M?


   
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(@Beysus)
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Great numbers! Thanks for the update?
But I have a quick question, why did Halo and If I Were A Boy gain so much (the former +2.4M), while Single Ladies gained only about 600K


   
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(@Musicfan)
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Because they are better songs. Talent won.


   
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(@Musicfan)
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Halo selling 13M makes it the highest selling solo digital single by a black female artist. Topping we found love.


   
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(@Beyonce)
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Hi MJD ! 🙂

How the fuck 4 stay at 7.8 M and BEYONCE went from 7.9M to 7.6M ?
Both of these albums gained so much streams in 2017. Both should've had reach 8M copies sold since December 2016.
What is that mess ? Explain sis.
And I want a clear anwser, don't even try to fool my ass or I'll sting yours. >:(

Love you !


   
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(@KantClark)
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Thanks! Very clarifying. You just forget to respond me about 4 The Remix. It was certified Silver in UK. I really doubt that streams were so huge for add so many equivalent sales. I think 20.000 copies sold worldwide is very very conservative. Good job one more time.


   
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(@Stephon Jackson)
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Why exactly do you have N/A for certain countries/continents? I feel as tho you should have all the numbers (no matter how small), posted by each market.


   
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(@RLAAMJR.)
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The first artist you see losing sale? You are seriously wrong miguel.


   
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(@mjd)
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Hi Musicfan!

Her Top 10 DLs in the US stand as below:
1 - Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) 5725k
2 - Halo 4100k
3 - Irreplaceable 3650k
4 - Telephone 3500k
5 - If I Were a Boy 3375k
6 - Crazy in Love 2500k
7 - Drunk in Love 2150k
8 - Sweet Dreams 1900k
9 - Beautiful Liar 1675k
10 - Check On It 1650k


   
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(@mjd)
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Hi Beysus!

Mainly because of South Korea sales. Most data you will find online for SK will add sales from charted weeks, but that leaves out years of healthy sales. During my updates from the last few months, I went into checking every weekly chart to make sure to define correctly the pace of sales of catalog songs. IIWAB charted time to time from 2011 to 2014, at times with 2 distinct versions. Even if there isn't that many "visible" sales, we can highlight a trend of 100k-ish sales per year on average during that period. Plus initial sales, it is estimated on 800k there, much higher than former figures.

Sales of Halo are much more visible, but it still charted through several versions, these distinct versions amassed sales all along the way while not charting. In the past, I though it started to sell late in the country since it sold 1,1m in 2012 after selling only 65k in 2010, but after going through all charts I'm now confident it moved about 200k units before 2010. All told, the song now stands on 2875k sales in SK.

In the other side, SL hasn't climb that much because its 2009 sales there are relatively disappointing at 105k, in my former estimates I had a higher figure so this fix has off-set the climb usually enjoyed by 2008/2009 songs which sold well in both ringtones and in Asia.


   
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(@mjd)
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Hi Beyoncé! Nice to see you here ;p

As a general note, albums post-2010 have lower figures than previously posted up to the start of 2017. Basically, 'unknown' markets are worked out thanks to market sizes. The point is, from 2010 pure sales dropped so much year after year that even using the last known market size for a country would result into a 15/20% inflation. I used to be cautious with that, already expecting market drops on my calculations. What I haven't identify back then is that unknown markets would drop even faster than countries with data available like the US and the UK. To make it short, when the market started to go down, labels gave up small markets like continental Asia and Eastern Europe so extrapolations from developed markets inflated the numbers. This situation was identified and explained here. Now that we have all market figures for those years it is possible to fix back the formula were accurate market data which provides logically lower album sales.

For many artists, ongoing streams balanced the drop of album sales. The former article of Beyoncé though was using the very first Spotify to Comprehensive streaming extrapolation, which was too favorable because of a free-premium users confusion. The share of Spotify among all audio streaming platforms has since been adjusted as per IFPI reports, this was announced on that page. The self-titled album had so many streams in 2013-2016 that the wrong extrapolation inflated its EAS from streams. That's why it registers a tiny climb in this update on streams: because its strong ongoing streams were just enough to make up from the previous inflation. Now that everything is sorted and figures are hardly subject to future changes, both albums are going to increase very fast since they register healthy streams week after week.


   
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About 4: The Remix, it was a digital-only release, it sold next to nothing really. In most countries, it charted along with the main album, so these sales will appear into 4 instead. In the rare countries were it got charted seperately like in the UK, most of its sales were achieved from to streams only.

Now it seems that it got better, but during quite some time the accounting of streams was completely messed by the OCC, they were counting streams of songs into all albums which contained them. For example, both Beyoncé and Beyoncé Plat Edition received the same 15,3k sales from streams added to their RTD (release to date) tallies on 13/06/2015 when they were added into calculations. I have met this situation many times through various articles of obscur remix / compilations, often deleted for very long, enjoying healthy streams from the OCC. If you check for example this weekly chart, you can see that 'Beyoncé' streams go into 2 albums, that I Am... Sasha Fierce streams are also counted into I Am... Yours and that 'fake' releases like Michael Jackson's Visionary Singles, Rihanna's 3CD box, Oasis' Singles Box, etc. appear on the list. That's where the Silver disc of 4: The Remix came from!


   
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(@HushMoney)
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Wait. Your first update back in 2016 you had ST at 4M (pure) and 7.9M (units) with update you have it at 3.8M (pure) and 7.7m (units) along how does one albums decrease when they still sale/streamed just like with the rest of her albums? You’re very inconsistent with Beyoncé. Comparing ur work with others somehow they get an increase while Beyoncé takes a decrease. You allow jealous stans of other fan-bases to play a roll in your work.


   
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