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(@Antonio)
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thank you Al, I would be very pleased if you add Toto too, you were very kind to answer me right away.


   
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(@worldcitizen)
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Would any of these artists be eligible for requests?
English/International:
The Temptations, The Isley Brothers, Snoop Dogg, Hall & Oates, Heart, John Mayer, Josh Groban, Nat King Cole, Johnny Mathis, Sheryl Crow, Faith Hill, Anne Murray, Joni Mitchell, LeAnn Rimes, Sarah McLachlan, Enigma, Pet Shop Boys, Milli Vanilli, INXS and Savage Garden.

Non-English/Local:
Bad Bunny, J Balvin, Ozuna, Daddy Yankee, Laura Pausini, Zucchero, Peter Maffay and Marius Müller-Westernhagen.


   
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 Al
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Hi worldcitizen!

Among the International acts you mention here I doubt most of them reach any of the criteria, except INXS with "Kick" maybe. Nat King Cole is already in the voting list.

For the local acts many of these are indeed close calls. I don't think the two Italians sold enough. The Latin acts should get there rather soon I think, especially Bad Bunny.

The Germans are a bit harder to say for sure about due to so high certification levels in Germany at the time. I can see on discogs that Peter Maffay has some healthy GDR sales too, these were not included in German certifications.


   
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(@Antonio)
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Hi Al !!!

Since you are a very polite person, I would like to ask you if they could update U2, they think that after their last studio album Songs of Experience we have perhaps exceeded 200 million equivalent albums sales.
I hope you answer me.


   
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 Al
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Hi again!

I won't rule out the possibility of a voting page for artist updates similar to this one in the future.


   
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(@analord)
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I just realized that Rod Stewart's CSPC total includes the Faces albums (even though he only sang on half of their songs), so that means Clapton's total should probably include the Cream and Derek & The Dominos albums, and that would mean a CSPC total of maybe... 165 million ? Close to Mariah Carey ? Doesn't that mean he should be studied ?


   
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 Al
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Not sure what will be included, but as I said you can vote for him. He's definitely well past 100m regardless.


   
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(@analord)
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Well sure, I can vote for him, and then he will be... 73rd in the list ?

My point is, I think it's weird than someone who's potentially top 20 of all time isn't planned to be studied.


   
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 Al
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The artists you can vote for are exactly artists we will study. He has the weighting of 4 too because he's such a big seller, if you give 3 votes to him he will enter the top 50. I'm definitely voting for him in the next round as well.


   
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 ojd
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Who do you think the highest seller not studied yet is? Other than Frank Sinatra who I’m assuming is the biggest

and how’s the wighting done is it 4 is everyone over 100m, 3 is everyone over 70m, 2 is 50m, 1 is has an album over 15


   
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 Al
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Neil Diamond Eric Clapton are the only one left (outside of Frank) that has a shot at 150m I think.

There are a few more likely 100m+ sellers, The Beach Boys probably lead among these. The 4 weighting doesn't necessarily mean they are over 100m, it's just a good possibility based on old estimates. Here are some big wildcards too like Johnny Cash and Roberto Carlos with a 3 weighting,


   
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 obro
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thank you so much! Although I haven’t voted for hi, I’m actually excited for a Neil Diamond analysis because Sweet Caroline is seemingly his only song that’s stood the test of time commercially speaking and with the amount of compilations he sold it must have a very large CSPC total


   
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 Dan
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But how could you study him, if tons of his releases are missing from the USSR post (not just for Vysotski, for everyone)?


   
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 Al
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Absolutely! I will be very surprised if it's no the biggest song we haven't studied


   
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 Al
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Most of his major releases seem covered by codes. I just wasn't in the mood for checking all for him entirely until his eventual CSPC article, we're talking several hundreds of receipts here. So the 17m I got back then is far from the total all his codes will cover.

I suppose we'll see what to do when all his available codes are collected. Discogs owner data will for sure be to big help to fill holes here. I haven't checked what info local newspapers etc posted about him back then too.

We've never studied a Russian act before either so it might lead us to using some new techniques like we also had to when checking other acts with atypical sales patterns like Ayumi Hamasaki and BTS.


   
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 Jazz
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Olivia Newton John should be added to the list


   
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(@Fanofpop)
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What do the tiers mean
like tier 1-4, I get it’s something to do with cspc
Also if a foreign artist sold 70m and a int artist sold 70m would they be in the same tier?


   
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(@martin)
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They represent an unstudied artists, expected CSPC total, with 4 being given to artists with the highest expected totals and 1 to artists with the lowest expected totals.

Yes.


   
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 ojd
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do you think beyonce will eventually overtake enya?


   
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 Rell
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When is the Deep Purple analysis supposed to be published ? 🙂


   
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 ojd
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They’re doing Neil Young first


   
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(@Fanofpop)
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What kind of numbers are required for each tier?
Is it something like 100m+ for tier 1, 85m+ for tier 2 70m+ for tier 3, 50m+ for tier 4?
I understand these are estimates subject to error Prior to being studied.


   
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(@Antonio)
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Hi guys
I wanted to ask something to MJD, in his old forum Chart in France, he analyzed Zucchero Fornaciari and his best of of 1996 totaled 3,700,000 worldwide estimates of which:
The Best Of (1996)
Europe: 3,520,000
- France: 800,000
- Allemagne: 600,000
- Italy: 1,150,000
- Pays-Bas: 80,000
- Suisse: 150,000
- Autriche: 90,000
Estimations Mondiales: 3,700,000

however I cannot find this collection in the French chars, I would like to have clarifications about it, I hope you answer me


   
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Hi Fanofpop!

It's more like 90m+ for tier 1, 65m+ for tier 2, 50-65m for tier 3, and then artists with 1 are or artists with 1 album over 15m or over 30m CSPC with local releases.


   
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(@mjd)
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Yep, that's correct ojd! Album sales of Buffalo Springfield, CSN-CSNY and Neil Young are near complete, I still need to build his singles sales. It's taking longer than expected, with the closure of nursery homes/schools it got more difficult to found time to work effectively, but from the end of this week everything should go back to normal 🙂


   
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