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Yes! You're correct. I know who he is but somehow he never came to mind. I'll definitely add him in a future update.
Did you consider the fact that Taylor has only released 2 songs in the last 12 months vs. the constant releases (in Ariana's case 2 studio albums) from both Ariana/Billie in the past 12? Also, No one claimed she was the biggest female act in South Korea. Taylor is definitely one of the top international acts in the country and the biggest western act in all of Asia.
to be fair tho Taylor music she's been releasing is not good at all. Even I as fan can admit that. I'm not saying if she released a good song it would certainly smash but how can you be comparing Billie and Ariana to Taylor Swift. When Reputation outsold both of their albums. Despite being seen as a flop. And I'm sure they won't be reaching Reps CSPC anytime soon. Taylors been in the game for 13 years with 2 huge peaks. Also yes we all know she ain't that big in Europe and South Korea. But I don't get why people act like Europe is the be all end all. Ariana and Billie have nothing on Taylors achievements when she was their age. THe fact that Ariana has not even surpassed 50M CSPC after 5 albums say it all. So you can keep using your dumb drags and keep on seething on her success that your fave will never achieve. Good riddance user djdj
Then you can compare their views in the last 28 days, Taylor is still beaten. The biggest western act in all of Asia should be Gaga, who sold millions of albums in Japan with just one album and open big stadiums in Korea and Thailand. ATF was also 9xPlatinum=135k in the Philippines, not lower than Fearless by Taylor. Gaga outsold Taylor in both Japan and Southeast Asia. Oh, maybe Taylor sold massive digital albums in China, but that don't equal to standard album sales much.
I'm not a fan of Taylor or Gaga. I admit that Taylor is huger worldwide, but not in Asia.
Taylor grossed over $14m from her two shows at the Tokyo Dome last fall. That is twice the combined gross of Gaga in Korea and Thailand. The argument that Gaga is bigger than Taylor is simply ridiculous. Her Global Heat Map might give you an idea of her power in the region.
Once again, no one ever claimed Taylor was at the moment (Or ever) the biggest western act in South Korea.
But seriously, Gaga sold over 1 million albums in Japan with just one album. No doubt that Gaga was much huger than Taylor in Japan. She sold much more downloads and ringtones of her tracks in Japan,too.Tour boxoffices don't tell everything,Mariah used to do badly on tour box offices, but still huge on physical record sales.Global Heat Map gives nothing, that would only suggest Southeast Asia is where stream Taylor most on YouTube, only compare to herself, not anyone else.
According to Japan’s offical chart 🇯🇵oricon, The Fame sold 700k+;The Fame Monster sold 200k+;The Remix sold 100k+.Gaga sold millions of albums in Japan with just 3 albums.LOL,🌎IFPI🇺🇸RIAA🇯🇵RIAJ all distinguish between The Fame and The Fame Monster
sis it seems that you know nothing about how music industry count sales
https://chartmasters.org/2018/03/cspc-lady-gaga-popularity-analysis-2/4/
Only in North America, TF and TFM are seperate, because TFM was released as an EP in North America. But the case is different in other regions. In other regions, TF and TFM are noth released as studio albums, so although sometimes they are seperate to be counted sales, MJD still add them together.
Is MJD more authoritative than IFPI???LOL
IFPI Top 50 Global Best Selling Albums for 2009:
#5 The Fame
#15 The Fame Monster
IFPI Top 50 Global Best Selling Albums for 2010:
#2 The Fame Monster
#25 The Fame
IFPI Top 50 Global Best Selling Albums for 2011:
#48 The Fame Monster
Lady Gaga's main works:
LG1:TF(2008)
LG2:TFM(2009)
LG3:BTW(2011)
LG4:ARTPOP(2013)
TB&LG:CTC(2014)
LG5:Joanne(2016)
LG&BC:ASIB(2018)
Everyone knows LG5=Joanne,
If LG1=TF+TFM,
Where is LG5???
Both CTC and ASIB are all cooperative works ,can't belong to solo LGz(z is positive integer )series.
Which I agree that she was NO longer the top international seller. But overall she wasnt local and she was big all over Asia including South Korea. You choose to point out in 2010 nobody knew her in Korea. Its funny bcoz u choose a time in which she wasnt a global artist yet. She reached her peak global status around 2012-2014 when she started to turn into pop music rather than country. At her peak she was massive all over Asia and she wasnt local. The point im disagreeing with is not whether Lady Gaga are bigger or not. The point im disagreeing here is that u said she is LOCAL, and it has been proven that u r wrong and u just wanted to start another shitty divas war. Stop talking shit.
I never said that she was local. What I state is she is not that big in Europe(what I mean is big in Europe but not that big) and she used be to nobody in South Korea. MJD estimate 1.6 million downloads for LS in SK, I kind of doubt that, that's why I mentioned that she was nobody in 2010. And I state that Tracks from Red is popular in SK based on Gaon.
What you mentioned are just different releases. For example, Thriller has a lot of different releases through nearly 40 years, when they chart they are seperate to be counted sales and have different names. That doesn't mean they aren't added together when counting the sales of the studio album. And I have to repeat again, TFM was released as an EP only in North America with 1.675 million sales in North America alone,maybe enough to chart. The title of the studio album is The Fame/The Fame Monster, because in other regions (outside North America), TFM was released as a studio album, not an EP, so they are added together to count the sales of the studio album.
Beacuse of IFPI didn't publish sales' data earlier years ago ,MJD can't distinguish between The Fame and The Fame Monster,another unofficial chart:UWC showed TFM sold about 6m around the world for 2010 only.
LOL then get out of his site. Once again, outside of North America, TFM was an re-issue of TF. This is not another original album, but an reissue of TF.But TFM was released as an EP in North America,so it is seperate.I don't want to waste time on you now.
U responded to someone who said, Taylor is global then u said "No". Ur not saying shes local ur saying shes not global. In other words same thing. Dont try to run away from it. U said it own it. The fact that she has bigger views from many other countries vs America (proportionally speaking based on populations) is what bother Swift fans with ur silly comments.
IFPI Top ten markets for 2018
🇺🇸$6.64bn,+15.0%
🇯🇵$2.87bn,+3.4%
🇬🇧$1.40bn,+3.1%
🇩🇪$1.31bn,-9.9%
🇫🇷$991.9m,+1.4%
🇰🇷$599.9m,+17.9%
🇨🇳$531.3m,+79.6%*
🇦🇺$446.6m,+1.4%
🇨🇦$441.2m,+0.5%
🇧🇷$298.8m,+15.4%
*IFPI transitioned to transactional reporting in China in 2018.
IFPI may counted China's digtal music datas,Taylor sold nearly 3m digital albums in China,but MJD hasn't count it.
That depends on your standard for "global". For me , yes she is not that global, because she is not that big in Europe(big but not that big),SK and some countries in Latin America.And once again, I never said she is local. There are 2 billion monthly users from YouTube, US represents over 200 million. so, in my opinion, when she got 3 to 4 times views overseas as in US, I can call her ultimately global.
Yes IFPI already start to count china's digital album sales, but need to be required from labels. MJD already start to count them since the article about BTS.
Over the past 1 months her youtube US youtube views represents less than a quarter of her total global views which also means more than 75% for non us views. That is more than 3 times already. So now u admit she is ultimately global?
Hi all!
Let's try to be realistic on these kind of discussions. It only generates fights to make dubious claims like Taylor is a nobody in SK. Same when one say she is the biggest western act in all of Asia. In SK, she has been fairly sucessful for a foreign act some years ago. She struggles a bit more lately, but she is still not quite close to irrelevant. In the entire Asia she is definitely a huge deal. She hasn't got as high as Avril Lavigne has got at her peak, but not many challenge her in recent years. Popularity wise Bieber is likely ahead once we consider the entire region, sales volume wise of entire catalogs has likely Maroon 5 on the lead, but Taylor would be top 3 in both rankings for the last 10 years or so.
Hi Xavier!
Your comment has various interesting and valid arguments so don't fall into these pointless fan-war conclusions yo uain't serving your point! You only open the door to more bias / attacks from other fans/haters, especially since you feed them by claiming that last albums of Ariana and Billie won't reach CSPC total of Reputation which will most likely fire back to you. Career-wise Taylor is on another level, not sure it requires that much arguments really!
Hi djdj!
How do you define "big"? The thing is, if she had the exact same sales in Europe, but sales similar to Demi Lovato (no disrecpect) elsewhere, we would be saying that Taylor is big in Europe but so-so elsewhere so not global. An artist isn't global only when he is hugely and equally popular everywhere. I suppose only one artist in history would fit this description. Do we say that the Beatles aren't global because they are not popular in India? That's doubtful. Taylor isn't a top seller in France, so what? It's only one market, less than 1% of the World population, and still people turning on the radio often know her and a few of her songs. My mom certainly never heard about her (as you know I'm French and my mom hardly follows the music scene), but I would be the first stating it's impossible to argue Taylor isn't global nowadays.
Hi MJD. If Taylor is top 3, does that means she is bigger than Lady Gaga in Asia in terms of sales & streamings.
