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The UK part started yesterday. According to the papers, the British have gone completely crazy about Taylor. History is indeed being made now. More than a million people at UK gigs. According to Sun, the average ticket price is £240 and rising. The guy who handled Michael Jackson's business affairs says that Taylor is
in a league of her own. Many people want to be involved just to witness history.
Shouldn't believe everything you read in the papers, the hyperbole is ridiculous. Britain didn't come to a standstill yesterday, with the whole country going into meltdown because of her. Most probably weren't even aware she was playing in Edinburgh.
Martina and his various ways to discredit Taylor. Weren't you the one who said she doesn't feature in mainstream articles or something mnths back and now when she doesn't, you find another excuse. Another bbc article said her tour has 11 million tickets sold with near 2 billion usd sales. Isn't bbc big ? First she doesn't seem as big like previous gen and now media is creating hyperbole..pick a struggle martin at this point
We also compare then original big four divas sales with previous gen divas and how they went ahead of them. Then that was ridiculous too. If comparison existed for previous gen to elevate original big four over previous generations, it can be applied to Taylor's generation too. You can't have both ways
They r the official music bodies. Not you. So in end their words are the official ones. ✔️
Music industry take those organisations as serious and those organisations are national bodies run by government. Should I take ur opinion over them hon?
So it was applied to pre Beatles era too when singles was the king. Then wasn't it unfair that mtv gen artists outsold previous gen artists. I remember prev gen couldn't digest Madonna coming out of nowhere and slaying charts and ruling mtv. It is always the old nostalgia fans who doesn't want to accept change. More consumption is reaching far more audience now. That is why equivalence is important
We are counting the value of whole album from thousands of streams and tens of downloads. Weightage is the way to go. Current artists suffered from piracy and this is how industry was saved by streaming and brought the concept of album back again.
I don't see the problem. Lana del rey albums underperform initially but slowly people discovered her music and she was second most consumed women last year behind Taylor. Streaming has changed the game of catalog sales. Many albums can be flop initially but in retrospect they become classics and keep selling. I don't see the problem. Catalog is most important thing in era of streaming.
The press around her in the UK has definitely picked up over the past year, before that, what I wrote was correct
No it wasn't and the thing is now you are calling it hyperbole. And finding excuses. Learn to give credit first
No, as we were still measuring the same thing, music sales. The industry has changed over the years from singles, to vinyl albums, cassettes, then CDs etc but all were consumed in the same manner, all were recorded in the same manner. This is completely different, we are not measuring like for like anymore, why cant you see orr appreciate this?
Our governments are official organisations and I certainly do not believe in or trust everything they do or say.
Streaming hasn't changed the game, it's a completely new game, a different game.
I think streaming is a far better and for the most part transparent method, certainly Spotify but that's not the point, the point is, it's not sales. It's great for comparing current artists consumption but not against older artists, who operated under a completely different model.
And put this nostalgia crap to one side, it's nothing to do with nostalgia or not accepting change. I can accept change, like change in singles to albums etc, it's pretending that there is no change and we are measuring like for like, that I have a problem with.
And it's not broughht back the concept of the album, it has effectively killed the album.
It is hyperbole, the whole country did not go crazy yesterday, it's about being honest, why say the country went crazy about her yesterday, when it quite clearly didn't.
Obv no country goes crazy for anyone even mj and Madonna weren't causing whole country to go berserk. Point is she has enough impact to be mainstream all over the world and world leaders begging her to come to their nations. You were earlier discrediting her mainstream presence and when she has clearly one. You call it hyperbole. You need to find ur next excuse martin because u r loosing in all fronts. So called unbiased editor
Lmao. That is not how it is done. Music stores reached new countries during mtv which gave unfair advantage to new divas. Piracy literally killed the industry . Streaming has brought the concept of album back . you are so convincing urself which suits ur narrative which doesn't. Just bcoz old sales are getting passed. your gen is unable to accept that and find ridiculous things to discredit at thisnpoint. you need to appreciate modern times. and how current artists are outselling older. Which u can't. You guys discredit current tours but wanna give all credit to older artists. Which is clearly bias and then call urself fair.
And current artists who r acting the game should be appreciated. If their whole catalog is getting consumed. Hence the numbers. It's not like one stream is equal to one sale. It is -1000s of streams. Infact streaming is downweighted in many charts. Which is more unfair
World is never fair. It was never fair to artists before mtv when visuals didn't exist. Visuals gave unfair advantage to Madonna mj etc
And you need to shut ur crap too. You are rigid and is unable to accept change and move with times. You are one of those yt men who think music died with rock death
It has made album king again
And i never agreed abt hyperbole. She is biggest star in world including ur country. Cope
How was it unfair, the top 4 artists of all time, all started many years prior to MTV, two of them didn't even exist by the time MTV came around.
Piracy didn't kill the industry, piracy has been around since the 60s, ever remember those "Home taping is killing the recording industry" inner sleeves in vinyl albums, what it actually done was eat into their profits and that's what they didn't like. Technology killed the industry as we knew it.
Streaming has not brought the concept of the album back, the album is dead, ever since down loading of individual tracks became a thing. People just pick and choose what tracks they want to listen to now, it's just about tracks. I do appreciate modern times and the fact that modernity and technology and the ability to pick and choose which tracks you want to buy or stream, has killed the album as we knew it. The majority of people do not buy albums anymore, they just listen to tracks. Modern artists are not out SELLING older artists, they for the most part are out streaming older artists, two completely different and separate things.
I don't give a toss about discrediting current stars or tours, I just want like for like measured and that cannot be done anymore.
One stream or any amount of streams was, is and never will be equal to a sale, they are two different things!
Get this idiotic MTV thing out of your head, as mentioned elsewhere, it didn't make MJ more successful than The Beatles and it didn't make Madonna more popular than Elvis. It didn't help Bon Jovi, Guns N Roses, Metallica etc sell more than Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd.
Tracks are king now, been that way for decades. Nobody is shifting pure albums in any great quantity, albums are just a title now given to a bunch of tracks, that are picked, chosen, listened to as people wish. The album is dead.
And you need to keep these comments to talking about what we are talking about and leave your stupid and juvenile retorts in your head or they will all end up in the trash.
She is insanely successful and easily the biggest music artist around, which I've said numerous times previously.
Yes you did. You said "Obv no country goes crazy for anyone", which by default means that if someone says "the whole country has went crazy", that is quite evidently hyperbole!
