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(@martin)
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But it's not going against my personal perception! I know she is, I wasn't saying she wasn't, I was saying that her and her music are less recognisable to me, which are two different things.


   
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Landi Schorsch
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I have to agree with Martin. In many cases it's a matter of age. I'm even ten years younger than him. Indeed, I've heard the name Taylor Swift, also from the so-called Swifties, but I don't know a single song by her. I probably heard a thing or two from her (could also be from someone else) while watching a TikTok or Instagram video, but I don't remember anything. So, she might be relevant for a certain age range, but for the rest she definitely isn't. This has nothing to do with disrespect or trolling. I would also never argue with anyone about tastes in music, because for me it's true: there's no arguing about taste. But I think everyone should be allowed to express his or her point of view (as Martin did) without getting shitstormed by some Swifties or other users who cannot deal with different opinions.


   
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 Mike
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There’s a change in the streaming formula? This daily updates do not make any sense


   
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 EMAA
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A lot of albums these were getting 14k+ updates but not anymore what change?


   
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(@JorgeM)
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I think you have messed up something with Taylor formula because her album updates since the last update of her article doesn’t make sense


   
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It's unclear what exactly Taylor's artist ratio but the daily gains seem off. If Lover were only gaining 11.6k from 13.5m streams, that would imply her artist ratio is 1.3, which seems pretty low given she isn't that Spotify centric. Is there an error?


   
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(@Denysanatol)
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Your Update article as of July 11 , 2023 : Taylor's career total 159.45 million EAS . Updates on Top Artists list : Taylor Swift 07/13/23 - 162,073,000 EAS . How it's possible ?


   
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 Mike
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Thank u for fixed it


   
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 Guy
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It's ibteresting to see how the international dates of her tpur will impact her sales - will they break places where she is not the biggest ?
Like i would love to see her impact after the mexican and south american shows on the streaming stats from those countries.

What do ya'll think?


   
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As latino I can say years ago I thought the weekend was the biggest English act in latam but since last year is pretty obvious who is, and her popularity here is increasing day by day, usually she is the top English act in all countries on Spotify, impressive for a market she hasn’t touch in years and where she has not airplay


   
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 EMAA
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As latino I cas say years ago I thought the weeknd was the biggest english speaking act here but since last year is very obvious who is, her popularity here is incresing day by day,she's the top english speaking artist in almost all countries on spotify Latam,impressive for a market she hasn't touch in years and where she does not have airplay.


   
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(@cmdigger)
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Yes - I'm using the numbers from this article which already combines them both. I hope someone knows the answer.


   
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(@Tommy)
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You can already see this playing out, in select days when presale was happening:

Ex: Argentina the day of tour presale

#59 Cruel summer (+16)
#70 Blank space (+31)
#75 Anti Hero (+44)
#82 Cardigan (+33)
#94 Style (+34)
#100 Don’t blame me (+41)
#117 Enchanted (+34)
#119 Lover (+34)
#122 YBWM TV (+36)
#136 Karma (+37)
#141 Love Story TV (RE)
#158 Shake it off (New)
#167 Miss Americana (RE)
#179 The Man (RE)
#193 Lavender Haze (RE)


   
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Hi Denysanatol!

Indeed this is an error, I would need to dig it to understand why the result is this one. I would expect it to be due to an error with features' calculations in the artist list, which may impact more artists as well. I'll let you know once it's fixed (well, you will see it too I suppose :)).

EDIT: so in the end the issue was with Taylor's only, some lost lines at the bottom of a sheet due to the additional songs from her last update. Now fixed, her total must be fine!


   
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Hi Tommy!

This is more like a display issue. The thing is that for the "Average" increase, we use the date of the article's update, and the one used is the date of sales figures' update, rather than streams. To be concrete, sales were estimated as of July 6, while streaming Spotify data is from July 8, and data shown now is up to July 15, so the average divides 7 days worth of streams by 9. Obviously, it's only a matter of a few weeks for that to make next to no difference. We went by this decision as it's only a display theme, this doesn't impact CSPC calculations, while using a wrong date for pure sales would conclude on reduced CSPC units (as the script would assume there have been 7 days of sales to add, while there have been 9 instead).

Hope it clears out things. By the way, the ratio is indeed fairly higher than 1.3 for her as it's 1.779138288.


   
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Thank you for the clarification.


   
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(@Denysanatol)
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Thank you . I hope it will .


   
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(@analord)
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Midnights now top 50 most streamed albums ever on Spotify, she joins 4 other artists (Post Malone, Weeknd, Drake and Ariana) who also have 3 albums, and of course Reputation should enter the top 50 in a few weeks (btw 2 of Ariana's albums might be out of the top 50 at that point).


   
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MJD / Admin Team, I know a feature of the new artist page format is automatically estimated Pure Sales, will this extend to the Taylor's Versions given that those are the version adding relevant pure / probably a lot easier to estimate as they are actively charting in many places.


   
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(@Denysanatol)
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Her career total has 159.450.000 EAS including 68.057.000 EAS from streaming . Now it's at 161.004.000 EAS and 70.485.000 EAS .
70.485.000-68.057.000=2.428.000 EAS .
161.004.000-159.450.000=1.554.000 EAS .
I understand that 70.485.000 EAS from streams is wrong number ? Or what it means ?


   
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(@mjd)
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Hi Denysanatol!

After the fix from a couple of days ago, new figures are all correct, the wrong one is the 68.057m streaming figure from the article.

As I said a macro failed to create the bottom lines (thus missing some orphan songs and features) because of the new lines created in the middle for new tracks. The 'final' results are plugged in the root streaming sheet so numbers were complete (the 159.45m figure was good), but the 'top streaming tracks' image is plugged on that macro-generated version and so the bottom line showing totals from all platforms were missing some tracks. None of them make the top 20, so that one is unchanged, but the actual streaming total from the date of the article was 69,137m.

To avoid further confusion I updated both that image and the one from the streaming masters, with data up to the same date as before, but with totals factoring in all tracks, with no missing ones.


   
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(@mjd)
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Hi Tommy!

Yes, they are already considered. Now we have both, trend sales which add units daily, and the possibility to edit a single figure in the database easily to get everything updated just in case the real figures go off the forecasted trends.


   
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(@Denysanatol)
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Thanks ! And what about pure sales updates ? For example (as of 07/20/23) :
Folklore :
Original sales - 2.948.000
Other sales - 1.137.000
Physical singles (units) - 9.000
Digital singles (units) - 82.000
Streaming (units) - 6.670.000

Summary - 10.846.000 EAS .
BUT :

Albums CSPC results - 10.808.000 EAS .The same with other albums .


   
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(@Denysanatol)
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RED :
Summary - 23.346.000 EAS .
Albums CSPC results - 22.986.000 EAS .


   
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She sells 2.2~2.8m pure sales every year in the USA according to Billboard.


   
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