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1989 surpassed X
Lover surpassed Fine Line
Speak Now TV sold over 100k on its first day after announcement. This is gonna add few millions to Speak Now.
I think a better comparison would be remastered albums, like The Beatles had in 2009 for example. These reissues you're talking about are much more debatable, even Lady Gaga said The Fame Monster should be treated as her 2nd album, so combining both versions doesn't make sense imo.
Where’s this energy for all the large legacy acts with hundreds (not an exaggeration) of compilations, remasters, etc.
Ur acting as if Taylor didn’t release 6 albums in the last 4 years lmao Of course she would have more. 21 alone outsold 1989, Red excluding TV, Reputation combined. Let’s not be delusional
Not Swifties acting as if Taylor didn’t release 6 albums in the last 4 years. Of course she would have more than Adele and other artists. Now let’s compare their
Sales per album
21 outsold Red, 1989 and Rep combined
She’s huge but 75-80% of her sales are from China and US. Now that’s what I call, LOCAL. Swifties should stop acting as if their fave is the biggest when her streams in Asia are only carried by the Philippines Lmao 😜
One look at the Spotify artist charts and you'll see this is pretty misguided. Pure only tells part of the story, grab some more industry knowledge before you bash one of the most global artists of our time as 'local'
An artist releasing albums being a crime and a drag, it's literally her job.
This makes no sense. Midnights hold's the biggest Spotify debut in multiple Asian countries
Biggest overall Spotify debut: in HK, brazil, malaysia, pakistan, phillippines, portugal, Australia, saudi arabia, singapore, uae, usa, globally, asia, new zealand
Biggest female debut currently: in india, austria, belgium, bulgaria, czechia, cyprus, denmark, estonia, greece, hungary, ireland, latvia, lithuania, luxembourg, romania, slovakia, turkey, united kingdom, canada, egypt, israel, south africa
Biggest female debut at the time of release but since surpassed: mexico, argentina, chile, columbia, costa rica, ecuador, el salvador, guatemala, nicaragua, peru, uruguay, venezuela
Doesn't seem like a local artist to me but some people will always be blinded by their disdain
Taylor is nowhere near as big in India. On ghaana she is 4th most streamed into female. Spotify is irrelevant in India so it means nothing.
Spotify? Irrelevant in India? "With 10 billion streams in January alone, the app has become the country's leader in monthly streams" Nice try! Maybe in 2019 when the app launched
Also, pretty sure she's fourth behind Sia, Camila Cabello and Selena Gomez who got one or two smash hits. Overall, Taylor's discography is much bigger. Similar to Spotify a few years ago when Taylor wasn't the most streamed female artist.
For comparison:
Youtube (last 12 month)
Taylor Swift - 230M
Selena Gomez - 213M
Sia - 208M
Camila Cabello - 108M
Spotify Daily Top Artists India
#40 - Taylor Swift
#118 - Selena Gomez
N/A - Sia
N/A - Camila Cabello
So yes, she's pretty big for a western artist and being fourth is definitely not bad.
Eh she's 14th western artist overall, and she was 8th back in 2019 as MJD shown here.
So she decreased since then. She was 2nd behind Selena, but now Sia and Camila are bigger than her too. So how is her discography bigger than theirs?
Folklore, Evermore plus all her country albums flopped in India. They are only interested in pop.
Sure, she's doing OK there, but she's nowhere near as big as some people try to make her be in India. Justin Bieber is 10x as big as her based on streams in India for example, but nobody talks about it.
Spotify has exploded in India and is now its 2nd or 3rd market moving the most streams.
"Spotify led India’s music and audio streaming market in FY23 with a 26 per cent share (ahead of Reliance's JioSaavn, Airtel's Wynk, Apple Music, YouTube Music, Amazon Prime Music, Gaana, and others), according to a new study by Redseer. The Swedish audio-streaming major is said to have played a crucial role in bringing in first-time listeners in the age group of 15 to 30 to the Indian OTT audio market. " -- Business Today's India Branch, article dated 4/23.
Taylor was surpassed on Gaana sure, but Gaana is increasingly losing relevance, especially for Western Acts, there is a reason big Western songs in the country now get a fraction of the ones the big hits from the mid 2010s did.
And looking at the top western acts on Spotify India:
#22 The Weekend
#41 Taylor Swift
#81 Justin Bieber
#83 Ed Sheeran
#102 Eminem
#114 Selena Gomez
#122 Alan Walker
#127 Charlie Puth
You keep making points that don't look at the market as a whole and don't look at where the market is heading.
That user constantly picks and chooses data to use against Taylor. A lot of coping from him.
Top western acts on Spotify India
#22 The Weekend
#41 Taylor Swift
#81 Justin Bieber
#83 Ed Sheeran
#102 Eminem
#114 Selena Gomez
#122 Alan Walker
#127 Charlie Puth
So I guess Justin is in fact, not 10x bigger than her
And isn't it easier, at the same time, to have higher sales per album when you have fewer albums? Taylor's fans (and the general public, for that matter) are dividing their streams and sales into 10 albums. By the way, having 10 albums in 17 years of career is nothing crazy.
When Rihanna cared about music she was essentially releasing albums yearly, Nicki used to drop dozens (not a joke) of songs each year, Frank Sinatra has over 2,000 releases including, LPs, EPS, live albums, compilations, box sets, etc. I'm sure if this users faves had such immense demand they would be releasing as frequently as well.
You know that artists such as the Beatles, Elvis, Sinatra and many others of the old league have released much more material for consumers than Taylor? Their totals include limited editions, anniversary editions, remastered editions, box sets, christmas edition,...
CSPC Daily Gains (Change from 3/16)
Debut +2,150(+66.6%)
Fearless +9,860(+75.1%)
Speak Now +9,540(+136.1%)
Red +10,390(+50.3%)
1989 +14,090(+43.3%)
reputation +8,990(+66.8%)
Lover +11,900(+87.7%)
folklore +9,280(+63.1%)
evermore +5,160(+69.7%)
Midnights +17,240(+20.5%)
Total: +98,630(+58.2%)
This is blatant misinformation and anyone with a brain would know so. That's very embarrasing
