it probably already is at this point since Unorthodox Jukebox isn't that far ahead

and he has been! Dire Straits next.

With the new chinese which avoid scams, you should count Chinese sales 1:1. Yes there the prices are cheaper, like everything, including salaries are lower. It is stupid to count their copies less because for example in my country, Spain, Taylor albums (and most US pop star) have a higher prices and they don’t count 1,5

Fully agree

Taylor is above them and Paul probably already if she got updated

agreed, + many elvis albums for example were sold for very cheap prices in the west and count fully. and for example Red (TV) costs 30 yuwans in china (4.7 dollars) which is enough of a price to be counted for bb200 in the US.

Hi Jorge!

For new products, this has already been decided at our end 😉

And the formula for older stuff will slightly be amended as well!

Oh great to know it!! Thanks for the replay

what would the new base number be instead of 50 yuwans for those older projects? i assume 35-40 yuwans ?

Yeah, I agreed that you need update new formula regarding Chinese download. If the albums are sold at higher price than minimum price for BB200 then, there's no need for conversion and should be counted as 1:1 which somehow can offset the weaker purchasing power in China.

HI @MJD

You said that Taylor could possibly get with in reach of Barbara's and Whitney's CSPC totals. Well would I be delusional for thinking she could possibly come near Mariah's or even Celine's CSPSC totals in the long run? Or is it completely out of the question?

Nothing is really out of the question, you never know what could happen in the future. it's certainly not impossible.

What's definite is that she will never outsell Madonna

Why exactly? The gap between Madonna and Taylor is 136m CSPSC. Granted it'll take a couple decade but at the current rate Taylor is easily gaining over 10m CSPSC from audio streams alone annually, compared to 670k for Madonna. I mean if Taylor keeps dropping albums that break streaming records and still manage to sell in the millions in pure sales, it will happen and probably a lot sooner than you expect.

Taylor will not sell 10m units every year. She's going down and is past her prime.

Madonnas sales are increasing as well and she's releasing music still.

Taylor needs a blockbuster album like ROL and more highly successful albums, on RED scale, to even catch up, let alone overtake Madonna which I just don't see happening.