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Chinese sales must have been included, cause it's an official announcement, also this was the number of her global sales calculated by fan accounts that were criticizing CM on twt all the time, (and their predictions were proven right many times before) so...


   
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 ojd
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they may also use different weightings for sales


   
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 Kris
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Claims from labels, publications, and organizations are made about all artists. Unless breakdowns are given, there's no way to know how the 114M total came to be. It's like how publications and labels often talk in "records" sold, or mix sales from singles and albums together, etc. This has been happening for decades, but now that we are in the streaming era, it's particularly confusing because countries weight streams in different ways. The whole point of this site is to be transparent about the breakdown and weightings of sales figures. What other information was given with this Brit Awards announcement? Since when are the Brit Awards a source for sales figures? Can you give any more information?


   
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Hi Budada!

What about wondering how numbers are compiled to avoid comparing apples with oranges instead of suggesting there are bias here and there?


   
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 L145
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they said she accumelated 78 Billion streams... that's the only other information they mentioned


   
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I think that BMAs and other organizations have more information about the sales WW, there is a lot of countries that only the record label knows and give the numbers to them


   
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Hi MJD
Thanks for the prompt update. You recently said that Folklore sold 1.95m without China in 2020, but now in mid 2021 you placed it at 1.855m. Why did it’s sales decrease?
https://ibb.co/tHPGCh9


   
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I thought Folklore was at 1.99M sales per IFPI in 2020 alone? Why 1.85M now?
And it's sold over 120K in the US alone in 2021....


   
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oh i've been waiting for this one!


   
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Wonderful! She's a brilliant artist. Given how you mentioned that Coldplay and Rihanna also surpassed 100 million units, can we have an update on them too?


   
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Chinese downloads are weighted as per their price, at selling price / 50, which is roughly 0.4 for Taylor Swift‘s albums

I don't understand this part actually.......


   
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Hi Fanofpop!

Back then I posted this comment to one of your question that explains it 🙂

To be entirely transparent, to me it sold a bit more than 1.7 million. Estimates we do are spot on for all the albums except that one. My intuition is that physical copies ordered in August that were first redeemed digitally (which explains the wild share of DL sales of the album on Soundscan) have been counted twice in this list.

I’m not closed at assuming 1.95m for CSPC purpose but I would better hold the decision until the RIAA certifies the record to see how it fits.

For now I'm still in 'wait and see' stage, discogs suggest no massive Asian sales for this album, the early months of 2021 tell that there were no missing mass shipment, so I'm more and more convinced the label counted 200k-ish sales twice in the number they shared to the IFPI, the digital redeem at first and the shipped physical product later on.


   
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Hi Gustavo!

We are working on them right now 🙂


   
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Hi Donchano!

In China there are next to no physical products, only downloads, and they are usually sold at 20 yuan for standard releases, 25 yuan for deluxe albums. If an album sells 1 million copies at 20 yuan, we add 1m * 20/50 = 400,000 CSPC sales. It enables to offset the bulk buying which is very present there and is obviously bigger and bigger as the price is lower.


   
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I come from China and I say Taylor is the most popular foreigner


   
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