Forum

Taylor Swift albums...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Taylor Swift albums and songs sales

2,161 Posts
66 Users
1 Reactions
19 K Views
(@martin)
Member Moderator
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 333
 

Yes, next week! lol

Seriously though, no, no I don't. You have to appreciate, not only are The Beatles the best selling act ever and by some margin, their contemporary sales and streams are also higher than the vast majority of current acts and show absolutely no signs of waning.

While people obviously like to make a fuss about the huge streaming/sales numbers of current acts such as BTS, Taylor or Drake and they are impressive, just take a minute to appreciate the numbers for The Beatles in 2021, a whopping 51 years since they last released new music or even existed as a group. To still have such a level of popularity, so long after their break up, is quite simply outstanding.


   
ReplyQuote
 Al
(@al)
Member Moderator
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 497
 

I don't think your Soundscan number for Taylor is correct. She's far from the 57m mark, or is it an EAS figure?


   
ReplyQuote
(@martin)
Member Moderator
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 333
 

I'm not sure what it incorporates, it was posted on a few sites earlier this year, stating Nielsen Musics best selling acts of the century so far;

https://eminem.news/nielsen-21st-century.html

In truth I can't find any official link to Nielsen stating these numbers though.


   
ReplyQuote
 Al
(@al)
Member Moderator
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 497
 

Seeing Drake so high it has to include streaming and probably downloads as well.


   
ReplyQuote
(@martin)
Member Moderator
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 333
 

There was another this link as well https://hiphop24x7.com/news/eminem-is-named-the-best-selling-us-artist-of-21st-century/ which just seems to be for solo artists, only difference seems to be Britney in and The Beatles out.

Strange that there seems to be nothing official that can be found.


   
ReplyQuote
(@Sonique)
Making some noise Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 49
 

Thank you, Martin, for the answer. May you continue with your mission to provide accurate data and information. More power to chartmasters ❤️❤️❤️


   
ReplyQuote
(@clockingbell)
Member Moderator
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 108
 

Probably no western artist, but BTS signals a musical equivalent to the pivot to Asia, so who knows how those big markets might be able to lift sales there?


   
ReplyQuote
(@Sonique)
Making some noise Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 49
 

BTS popularity I think is amplified by their strong social media presence and how active their fans are in stan Twitter. Honestly, I think there are many musical acts in Asia especially in India that are as massive as BTS but they don't get the spotlight yet since they were not heavily promoted by their labels or they have not taken advantage of stan culture.


   
ReplyQuote
 Al
(@al)
Member Moderator
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 497
 

Markets there are already growing really fast, revenues in Asia (outside Japan) have more then doubled the past 4 years.


   
ReplyQuote
(@clockingbell)
Member Moderator
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 108
 

I think you're right, but the crossover appeal from East to West could also give them an edge other artists lack (for now)


   
ReplyQuote
(@clockingbell)
Member Moderator
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 108
 

Thanks! Continuing growth might change these all-time best sellers lists fundamentally over the next few decades.


   
ReplyQuote
 Jake
(@Jake)
Viral on Spotify Guest
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 195
 

Eminem selling 72m in the US doesn't sit right with me.


   
ReplyQuote
(@juninho)
Got his first mic
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 1
 

i have two questions

did welcome to new york actually do 500m streams on china or is that a typo? because for a album track thats mindblowing

and do you think with the rerecordings she might surpass 120m sales by the end of next year?


   
ReplyQuote
(@ludaluda)
Garage singer Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 5
 

nice! never realized that you belong with me sold less than love story though..

also, can you do blackpink next? quick tip: melon (korea's biggest streaming platform) now releases data like streaming count and unique listeners, you might check that out. the thing with gaon is, they filter out like almost 45% of a song's stream count bcs of fandom mass streaming. ddu-du ddu-du shouldve been 3x plat for streaming, 4x even bcs it alreadu has 220m on melon and further 80m in genie


   
ReplyQuote
(@mjd)
Member Admin
Joined: 9 years ago
Posts: 1847
Topic starter  

Hi Ludaluda!

The thing, it's not Gaon which filters too much, it's Melon who doesn't do it enough. Their numbers, especially for older songs, include tons of bot-generated plays.


   
ReplyQuote
(@Drewwwwww)
Signing a deal Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 91
 

What about Twice on the Korean and Japanese charts? Can you fo a chart for those? Thanks.


   
ReplyQuote
(@Christopher Newell)
Got his first mic Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 4
 

Eminem has sold double albums than Taylor swift


   
ReplyQuote
(@Christopher newell)
Got his first mic Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 4
 

Sit somewhere else then because he has sold that many


   
ReplyQuote
(@Drewwwwww)
Signing a deal Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 91
 

BTS being able to beat The Beatles is something that can't physically happen. BTS' best selling album is only a little close to 10m where as 10m sales doesn't seem like a problem at all for a group like The Beatles


   
ReplyQuote
(@Drewwwwww)
Signing a deal Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 91
 

Although the East is pretty intense with Music right now, the West has always focused on an artist's sales. Take a look at Japan. The main K-pop act in Japan right now is TWICE. They have sold alot there but let's take a look at maybe the U.S where a somewhat equivalent for TWICE in Japan is Taylor Swift in the U.S. Taylor obviously has sold many there but since her equivalent in Japan is TWICE, and seeing how TWICE has moderate sales compared to Taylor, it's easy to say the fight of music in the West is more intense right now.


   
ReplyQuote
(@Drewwwwww)
Signing a deal Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 91
 

I have no Idea why people think Taylor is a flop in other places when it's the opposite. These Americans who think that their "research" is enough to say that Taylor is a flop without even knowing Taylor's actual status in places like Oceania or Asia. Asians love Taylor. They aren't big album comtributors but they are big streaming contributors. And sales don't always determine one's popularity because most album sales come from the actual pure album sales themselves and not always about streaming.


   
ReplyQuote
(@Drewwwwww)
Signing a deal Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 91
 

Did anyone ever say that Taylor was better than Adele? Why do some Adele fans hold a grudge to Taylor? Because she is similar to Adele in charts and album sales? Are they thinking that Taylor might dethrone Adele?


   
ReplyQuote
(@mjd)
Member Admin
Joined: 9 years ago
Posts: 1847
Topic starter  

Hi Drewwwwww!

While I don't think BTS will catch the Beatles for various reasons, it must be noted that by Oct 1972 their top sellers were Abbey Road at 7.2 million followed by Sgt Pepper at 6.3 million. Many of their albums did sell 10m copies ultimately, but that took many years!


   
ReplyQuote
(@Drewwwwww)
Signing a deal Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 91
 

True actually. But it will take very long for BTS to catch up to them. Sales for The Beatles were a little slow, but it was possible. BTS has the advantage of stan culture, which would boost their popularity by like 100%. Still, The Beatles has been around decades before BTS did and even though they disband, it doesn't really stop album sales. In fact, disbanding could actually boost your sales.


   
ReplyQuote
(@Drewwwwww)
Signing a deal Guest
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 91
 

1989's success is insane. I think if Taylor chose the right singles for Lover (maybe Cruel Summer etc.) then it would've been more successful than it is now. Many people overlook the main singles and they leave out the actual side tracks. I've noticed however, that when a Swiftie accidentally stumbles upon Cruel Summer, they fall inlove with it. (I've also noticed that Cruel Summer sounds alot like Stylish by LOOΠΔ). So maybe Cruel Summer should've been a main single too.


   
ReplyQuote
Page 18 / 87
Share: