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Hey MJD so does this mean 21 will Outsell the Bodyguard in the next decades or so?
Taylor 7 albums total - 79.36m
Rihanna 8 albums total -72.93m
So yes, Taylor is ahead in terms of albums.
But MJD, you have to consider that during those Big 5's time, there wasn't streaming but there were a lot of fm radio stations however numbers ofthe songs played especially on other parts of the world were not recorded. Also physical albums played all night, not counted/recorded. Unlike Spotify and others similar to it.
Also, you have to consider that it's easier to access almost everything through the internet. To check new music, to keep updated with their favorite music artists, etc
And lastly, there are more people now than before. More countries embracing western music.
I don't think MJD's point is about which artists have faced more favourable conditions in their careers, though. It's simply a fact that the biggest female singers of the 2000s have catalogues that are selling/streaming much faster than those of 80s/90s divas.
RLAAMJR,
You also have to consider that nobody is going to play & listen to one song/album1500 times on spotify. Probably not in their lifetime. You have to be unemployed or have no life or something to listen to one song over and over again every single day.
"And lastly, there are more people now than before. More countries embracing western music."
You also need to consider that back then the Asian market was huge and it is literally non existent right now. Spotify is growing in Asia and also other streaming services but it is far from reaching its peak. The truth is the big 90s act definitely benefitted from the all time peak market. Its no coincident that other than Adele, Sheeran no other artists managed to be A-League while back in the 90s there were plenty of them. Its obvious that most of the superstars especially during the downloads era was badly affected.
Thanks for the Taylor update... nice to see her at around 85 Million now and 55 Million this decade. I think her US domination is historic. At least for the 21st century.
Biggest US albums in pure sales by year of release to sales-to-date:
2006 Taylor Swift
2008 Fearless
2010 Speak Now takes a second place (1 Million opening week)
2012 Red (1,2 Million opening week)
2014 1989 (1,2 Million opening week)
2017 Reputation (overtook the biggest album 2017 after 1 week)
2019 Lover (took the over any album released in 2019 after 2 days of sales)
I think she is the second or third best selling artist of single downloads in the USA?
She holds the record for highest grossing tour in US history.
I’m really not sure how to feel about adding Chinese/Russian/Indian sales to the CSPC formula since in my opinion they always had piracy issues in the past which is why they were never taken seriously, also a lot of albums from 2013 and before didn’t ever have those markets in my opinion they inflate numbers to what they really are, sorry to sound old but I’d rather exclude China/Russia/India completely simply because I’d rather see how well artists have done in the usual developed music markets since the 80s (hope I don’t get hate for this) I’m a huge fan of Taylor but China shouldn’t have been included at all Idk why her fans want to inflate her numbers and make them inaccurate it just doesn’t make sense to me
You say Spotify is far from reaching its peak and Asia literally non existent but every song streamed is counted which current artusts have greatly benefit from it because they're still on their peak. But for past artists, they got zero count because despite of having huge hits, no Spotify so zero count when their songs werr doing well worldwide. Which explains why there are thousands of sogs rhat have more streams than the titanic song, perhaps even unheard/unreleased songs hve more streams than the titanic song.
The performance of older songs is counted - they powered sales of singles and albums. Modern hits earn lots of streams because they barely sell at all. Either way, popular songs end up with better EAS totals. Airplay isn't counted in the CSPC formula for any songs.
What does any of this have to do with the strength of Taylor Swift's catalogue, though?
Actually, she's number one best selling artist of single downloads in the USA with +100kk.
In SPS she's the third behind Drake and Rihanna.
China is the 7th biggest market ahead of Australia/Canada already, I think should be counted.
The club sales, cheap downloads in Korea and ringtones are counted as well so I don't see any problem counting China legal downloads.
Agree with You.
Universal Claimed that she sold Over fifty million albums. They Counted China Digital Sales.Club sales Cheap Too.
How ironic when you say Asia is literally non-exisrent when most people here are complaining about Swift's sales in China.
RLAAMJR,
There are some asian countries that are doing for examole China. But many other markets have crumbled significantly. Look at Japan for example. In 2004, it was 5 billion dollars market, by 2017 it is only 2.7 billion. Other countries such as Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, Thailand all has dramatically collapsed ever since the 90s. And furthermore you're claim that unheard songs are selling more than Titanic is just ridiculous. Im pretty sure in the late 90s hundreds of artists were outselling Barbra Streisand "Woman in Love" physicle single or even outselling "Guilty" album sales despite being so called unheard off. Like in the late 90s im pretty sure a nobody like Jessica Simpson would have outsold Streisand at that point. So ur arguement just doesnt make sense. Furthermore bare in mind that the new generation will hv their streams slow down in their future too. They will be in the same shoe as their older counterparts. Its not like they will continue growing forever.
