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And how abt stating wrong touring numbers for taylors tour. Showing half? Billion dollars from 60 plus dates and tour is abt 150 dates. It is crossing two billion mark easy. Madonna biggest tour was nearjy half of dates. She didn't have capacity to sell that many stadiums.
Taylor belongs to a generation of artists where physical records have been in a steep decline, so why do you expect her to sell more than 15 million physical copies??
Taylor highlights.
70 million plus pure sales crossed ( not counting Chinese sales which r seen as pure by ifpi. Personally feel if itunes r pure sales. So r Chinese. Which will put her around 75 to 80 million pure )
Ttpd 3.7 million
Midnights 4 million
Lover 3.2 million!
She is crossing 100 million pure even without Chinese sales with new releases and catalog sales. Unless she suddenly starts flopping lol
Looks like 2024 will fall of record 2023 50 million eas. It will top around 45 million eas I guess. It is still massive number. But 2023 was just other level. Next year she can keep the pace with next two re releases. !
Lover is such an organic success. When released did huge numbers still labelled flop because it wasn't smash on streaming and me was kind of shortlived. It has gone from 1.8 million to 2.4 million and 3.2 million pure with great catalog sales. And has become streaming classic album. 20 million eas on its own. This album is going to be her streaming classic down the decades or whatever future format is going to be
Indeed SabrinaQueen, Lover's hold in pure sales is impressive, here are its yearly numbers in the US:
2019: 1,085,000
2020: 174,000
2021: 152,000
2022: 150,000
2023: 426,000
2024: 262,000
Folklore is very impressive as well:
2020: 1,276,000 (+250,000 estimated exclusions due to the change of rules)
2021: 304,000
2022: 220,000
2023: 465,000
2024: 225,000
After 5 years, it has yet to drop below 220,000 sales, when 229,000 units were enough to be inside the yearly top 10 ranking in 2022!
Crazy she is guaranteed to have 10 twenty million selling albums by end of decade and we are not counting future releases. Though I blame ttpd for damaging her catalog streams..also I think this year we didn't have cruel summer anti hero combo. Still world's most streamed artist. 2023 was just crazy. She is still doing over 40 million eas this year. Though will fall short of 2023 49.9 million eas. Still 92 million eas in 2023-2024 just crazy stat.
With good commercial album and another massive tour. Wonder how many more albums will touch that margin. At one point she will become act with most 20 million eas albums. Madonna isn't in competition at this point. She is coming for 300 million plus before end of decade even if we factor that her streams fall down and she sells 6-7 million pure albums minimum per year with new releases as well as great catalog sales. 100 million pure is achievable by end of decade if she keeps releasing. That will be remarkable achievement
Lover has distance itself from reputation at 3 million. Even with rerelease reputation will catchup and beat it. But in long time over the decades.. lover gonna be her biggest streaming classic imo.
Note if we count chinese sales as pure by ifpi way. She is around 80 million pure already.
Cruel summer just went diamond in France. Her weakest market. Jake must be coming with excuses.
Midnights in a day will hit 10 billion streams. Her second album. 1989 original even with rerelease affecting streams, will reach there by 2026 . Reputation will hit by tv, but still can reach there by 2026 early. Folklore will reach there next year first half. Ttpd I think will reach 10 billion in 2026. Lover is her biggest album on streaming already. Six album by 2026 will be over 10 billion streams. Later joined by evermore , red tv , 1989 tv by decade end . And if her future releases smash, she might end the decade with more than ten albums over ten billion streams on Spotify. Crazy stats. She will be over 100 million pure, most streamed artist and one of biggest download and single seller ever in history. And she would have done it in less than 25 years of her career. Other veterans acts have done it. But with decades of head start and catalog over her. She can become a has been or legacy act after decade end. But her catalog will keep selling. The valuable catalog she has created.Really don't see anyone ever touching her stats among women. Unless we have long term breakout like her. I also don't see Taylor flopping anytime soon. The way she keeps holding on to her loyal fanbase and gp. The insane longevity and various peaks with consistent years set her apart.
I don't get why holiday collection is having its own column when you put eps live albums for other artist in orphan section? Like Mariah mtv unplugged a massive success album is in orphan folder.
Hi SabrinaQueen!
We just went that way the first time when she had a much shorter discography, and it remained that way ever since. To me it's no big deal to either include it or remove it, both are entirely acceptable solutions.
