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Peter is right Fortnight hardly broke into the top ten into a lot of european markets, this is fact not an opinion. Billie Eilish's album has charted better in most european countries, and it is a much better album, I am not a fan of either of them, but Lunch is a cool song, there is nothing in the tortured poet department that can match it.
The only reason why Taylor sold out stadiums fast in Italy France Switzerland is because bots and scalpers bought all the tickets in order to sell them on to americans for thousands of dollars, it was estimated that in france 20 per cent of the audience was made up of americans
You do understand that 80% local audience in raw audience numbers would still be bigger than any other modern-era American pop star in France, right?
Still unsure why Billie Eillish keeps getting mentioned here Two women can be successful at the same time, It's okay, I promise.
Because in the era of autoplay and label manipulation, seats sold is the best indicator for organic demand. Hope this helps Jake
She doesn't plan to slow down. Reportedly she plans to release one more album and go on tour again in 2026. Madonna gonna be overtaken next year. She is already in nine figures eas outside usa. Have biggest stadium tour ever by female artist in Europe despite Peter telling me how she is irrelevant in europe. 😉Some haters will have to cope with their cherrypicking of stats which suits them. While she will have another massive tour in their precious Europe and they will cope. From 2026 onwards, she will be cmng for queen and later mjs numbers. If she keeps the blockbuster albums going on. But what a two decade run so far! One new album. Two tvs . What a catalog.. btw she has sold more outside usa than usa. Her usa numbers are around 105 million and worldwide numbers are over 220 million. Do the maths
Taylor doesn't represent to old demographics. Tom cruise biggest movie star of last four decades. Hug grant are 14 years old. I was told here
So I can't use old stats to put Taylor's success down. Different era method applies to everyone not just which suits ur argument. She has destroyed every touring record of mj and Madonna
We don't care. Her album is already reaching 9 million eas and is blockbuster. Point of singles has always been to sell albums which it did. By that logic pink Floyd must be flop
I never said she's irrelevant in Europe. Shes just not bigger than the big female artists before her and nowhere close to MJ like her fans believe.
She's on par with the biggest female artists. That's as far as she can get in Europe.
I believe touring numbers. Europe isn't the end of world anyways and she still have biggest stadium tour ever there. Why should I trust Peter or jake or martin or whatever opinion over hard numbers? From billboard to other mega publications have said she has.mania on par with Beatles mj Madonna. Who r u to decide that?
You can't see the numbers bcoz pure sales r dead. She is massive there and how she smashed touring records in France her weakest market. Then those massive gurls must be doing wrong if they can't match her numbers despite being queens of Europe honey.
She is one of biggest artist of all time and it's overall sales which decide that. You cherry picking certain markets won't change that. She gonna overtake.madonna soon and mj sales too if she keeps 20 million plus eas for years to come. Even mj isn't safe at this point. You can cry about her singles charting when overall was will matter in end.
I will trust these media publication and worldwide impact over what Peter says to cope
Lol touring has nothing to do with music. MJ dangerous explained it too. What media says isn't always right. There's lot of bias involved. The reason they call her that is because the eras tour is making lot of money for cities. But her music is actually not doing that well to compare her to all time greats.
Her album is flopping in France, that's a fact and no sold out stadiums can help her because lot of people are not interested in her music. They wanted to see the concert because it gets lot of hype on social media. Lot of attendees were American too.
I guess her tour compensates for her poor sales in Europe and hits to put her alongside the biggest female artists.
She's nothing compared to MJ though in Europe.
can y'all let it go... taylor sells well and is famous, and so is everyone else.
