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Selling expensive stadiums doesn't matter. But a cheap single does. I have read it all. Ur single artists wish to sell as many stadiums and pointing only ed won't change that. He is flopping anyways and is legacy act already. Whereas Taylor is reaching new peaks in Europe in her career. France isn't end of world ..it isn't her strongest market so what? She sold.many stadiums there . Many mega smashers in France can't do it
You can't compare in the 80s demand for live music was much lower than today. Coldplay have sold out 160 stadiums like Taylor Swift.
Sorry, but where are your sources that state Ariana having more album sales than Taylor? I have yet to see any reliable sources that state such claims.
Same way you can't put down streaming era records for 80s and 90s pure sales and when mtv was prime factor and music was limited to some artists with less options. So it goes both ways
That's what I am saying from the start, but when it comes to live music the distortions are even greater. Just to name a few in the 80s and before most of the profits were in sales, some artists didn't even care about giving big concerts and they preferred smaller arenas when they could have sold out stadiums, people over 50 years were unlikely to go to concerts, now you see people of all ages ecc.... concerts are now a mainstream form of entertainment like films you see kinds with their parents or even granparent, in the 70s nobody brought kids to concerts, too much smelling of weed
To me, it isn't about putting sales or streaming records down, it's about the fact that, they are not truly comparable.
Trying to preserve continuous, one size fits all, music charts, certifications and sales records, while measuring something different, that leads to different outcomes, is the real problem. What we did measure and what we now measure, are so different in nature, it's bound to lead to arguments about the perceived injustices or benefits, of old and new, when trying to measure all time success.
The more I think about it, the more I think streaming should just be counted separately in some way versus physical and digital sales. Streaming is just so drastically different that it makes no sense to me.
But it's not the album that is being successful, it's, it's tracks.
You can have a hugely successful album from the physical era, critically acclaimed, still popular today and streamed well, across all of it's tracks, yet it's easily beaten by an album with perhaps none of the above, but with an insanely popular track, which out streams the entire album on it's own. It's not really about albums "sales" anymore, it's mainly just about track popularity, dressed up as album "sales".
And does the fact that Hot Space out streams both Revolver and Led Zeppelin II, mean it is currently a more successful album?
Taylor Swift is about to have 40 songs with over 500M streams on Spotify while basement dwellers on the internet will insist she has no hits.
Besides Viva La Vida in Italy, Canada and the Netherlands, none of Coldplay's iconic classics went Top 10 on any Year-End chart anywhere in the world. Would you also claim they don't have hits?
Are we really gonna keep up an argument like that? So many songs have reached 500m streams and barely/never charted on official charts, because they have longevity and aged nice.