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They are not quick lil singles it's true Taylors songs flop in Europe generally with a few exceptions like Anti Hero.
Her peers have hits that made many year end top 10s to top 40s in Europe. They are JUST as important as albums in my opinion.
Unfortunately she chooses horrible singles. Her lead single of her recent album is flopping all over Europe and is going out of the top 10 in USA too.
Another thing with her is she doesn't make catchy music anymore. She's at her peak, and made a folklore type album instead of a dance pop album. It's likely she won't get ANY hits from the album in Europe, but the album itself will chart for a long time hopefully.
I find it hard to relate to the album and I liked Midnights, Lover, Reputation and 1989 so I am not a hater.
Album sales matter most. Rocks bands didn't smash singles chart. She is selling most stadiums in Europe and have multiple albums in yec . The point of hot was always to sell albums which she sells plenty. She doesn't need hit when she is smashing album charts and stadiums. So called hitmakers can't sell like her whether albums or tours. Beyonce once said quick lol singles don't matter.
I didn't say u r hater. I m pointing out quick lol singles don't matter more than album which has sold so much. That is one which matters especially in streaming era.
Midnights smashes in Germany uk and decent in France. Most imp European markets
most popular albums by year of release:
Fearless #2
Speak Now #5
Red #1
1989 #1
reputation #3
Lover #2
folklore #3
Midnights #2
TTPD #1
Who has this kind of consistency? I think maybe two rock bands and nothing else
Swift's success is something unique. He has a strong business mind. When people want to buy, we give them stuff. I believe that he would be successful or will be successful in the pure business world. In my opinion, streaming has skewed sales in Swift's favor.
You can also point out Madonna never sold 150 stadiums in single tour. Her biggest tour is half of Taylor. So now don't come with excuses. Streaming has made music reach new cities in world. Hence the sales. It isn't inflation. Music is just more accessible. You can say older artists didn't have it. Then Madonna had mtv over previous gen artists to sell more albums. Nothing is fair then
That's not true. Beyonce, Gaga, Sheeran etc who sell more singles all can sell out stadiums based on their hits.
Ed sheerans recent albums flopped, but he sold out stadiums ww on the strength of his past hits.
So long lasting hits are just as important as singles. I am not talking about quick lil singles, but HITS ala Shape of You or Poker Face. Those are universal classics that everyone knows. Taylor maybe only has Shake it off on that level. That's MAYBE.
Even big rock bands have universal classics despite their singles not charting. Songs like Stairway to heaven, the wall, satisfaction etc are very well known by all generations.
Let's see if cruel summer and Anti Hero will age well.
Taylor sold 150 stadiums. None of them can do in single tour. Your point?
Taylor is more of album artist and her songs like love story ,ybwm, blankspace are universally known.
Long lasting albums are more important. Dark side of moon wasn't known for hits. An album will always be more important and valuable than a hit. There is reason we convert singles into album eas bcoz album is worth more in every metric.
She has known songs and moreover she is smashing album charts. Single job has always been to sell albums. That is the point of single. Her multiple yec placements in European charts showing how her whole work is consumed rather than one quick lol single
His point was, having successful and popular tracks, is as important, as having successful albums. I'd go as far to say, it's all that matters. Most people don't really care what album Don't Stop Me Now is on, Every Breath You Take is on, Paint It Black is on, Eye Of The Tiger is on, I Want You Back is on and the popularity of those tracks, has not really done much if anything, to turn people on to other tracks on those albums.
Yes, in the past, the album orientated strategies of Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd worked wonders for them. Limited single releases and exposure, no or limited videos, no best ofs/greatest hits etc all pushed people to buy their studios and many of their albums having fantastic streams across all their tracks but...I think it had a slightly detrimental affect in the long run. I think this strategy took them out of the loop, of the mainstream and those huge crossover audiences. I think this can be seen by the fact, that while audiences go deeper into their catalogue than many other legacy acts and they have numerous very well streamed tracks, neither has those huge crossover hits, seemingly loved and known by a good proportion of the general public.
I often bring up Queens Hot Space, but it perfectly illustrates why it's about tracks and not albums and that in many ways, the album just doesn't exist anymore.
Hot Space has 1.748B streams, Led Zeppelin II has 1.300B and Revolver 991M. The latter two were hugely successful upon release and continue to be, two of the most acclaimed, influential and popular of all time, the former, is not even particularly loved amongst Queen fans.
Under Pressure has 1.603B streams and Cool Cat has 93m, the only 2 tracks over 13m streams, 6 of the 11 are under 5m. All 14 of Revolvers are over 17m, with 8 over 50m and all 9 of LZIIs over 32m, with 3 over 100m. It's clear that Revolver and II are still more listened to throughout and loved as albums but overall, due solely to the popularity of UP, Hot Space is actually more listened to and popular.
It doesn't matter lol. Ed done 117 stadiums. If he wanted 150 he could have obviously done it.
There are artists who are both singles and albums artists like MJ and Madonna. Taylor is NOT on that level. All those songs you mentioned were not big hits in Europe. Love story was moderate, ybwm flopped COMPLETELY idk why you chose this song here. BS is the only one that did decently in Europe yet still flopped in major markets like France.
Coulda woulda don't count. Actual number counts and his ticket prices r nowhere Swift.
Taylor is foremost album artists and her songs are not known. She is Taylor Swift. She doesn't need to be Madonna or mj . These artist have diff brands. She is singer songwriter phenomenon and the other two were performer music vide phenomenon.
Flipping. She has sold out massive stadiums in Europe and noone can compete with her asis which yt people tend to ignore. She is mega star in Europe and having the biggest tour ever by female artist in Europe. So she is doing absolutely fine. You can cry abt her quick lil singles. When she will keep charting multiple albums in year end chart. She dominated Germany album chart uk album chart. Other two massive music markets. Bigger than France. So? Why u exclude them. And only u will say single is more important. Ab album will always be most important. Find more excuses to discredit.
Na I disagree successful albums are more important thG songs. She has signature songs and no your personal survey don't count. And moreover I can say anything album is more important and all that matters. So this argument is back to basic. If she can sell motr stadiums in Europe than any other female artist, then so called megahit smashers in Europe must be doing some thing wrong. Album consumption is most important.
Taylor music has latest well and her catalog smashes . Which shows her music is aging well. And she is household name with household music recognition.
