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Hi Nico!
Now that's wrong numbers 😉
Her management team dropped the 8 million figure very quickly after the release of BTW. My bet is that they did receive 8 million orders at the peak of the album's hype. Many were cancelled or returned though. By 31/12/2011, there was 6.8 million copies out there, and one year later when this number was reviewed, 900,000 more units had been returned, setting the effective number of units shipped during 2011 at 5.9 million. No need to say that it hasn't add 2.1 million in later years! Feel free to go through Vivendi financial reports to verify these numbers.
As for ASIB, it was up to 6 million using the American counting system. That one weights downloads lower than us (10 downloads = 1 album, while we apply 10 downloads = 1.5 album), but video streams much higher (11,750 to 1 for us, 1,500 to 1 for the US system). With this counting method, it is on exactly 7,000,000. Expect the RIAA to change this weighting in the future though since it makes little sense and most labels are fighting against it.
Did Lady Gaga's ASIB album boost sales/streaming of Barbra Streisand's ASIB album? Just wondering.
Not at all. I was just reacting when you said that
-- Lady Gaga went downhill but turn things the other way around with her ASIB album--
Because her ASIB album was released with a movie. So for me, I prefer to wait for her next studio album and compare its sales to her previous studio albums not supported with a movie, if she really has turned things the other way around.
Where did you get ASIB pure sales from. IFPI only reports units now. Please provide link to source of pure sales.
Their album lists are based on only pure sales, only their song ranking is SPS based.
Hi again Marta!
Anthony cross-checked the ASR file and in fact the dynamic table was messed up! The true ASR score of Gaga is 213, it has been fixed!
Hi Messiah!
There is 2 mistakes in your message. The first is your Soundscan data. You claim 760k sales to date while the album was on 775k in Feb 2018. The second error is to believe that Soundscan represents 100% of sales and that only their number matters. All figures are expressed in net shipments and there is obviously a few more thousands copies spread over the US that haven't been returned so far because retailers expect to sell them at some point. All communications / certifications have been using net shipments for decades, going with Soundscan sales for 1 country would be a massive flaw consistency-wise.
Hi but!
Vivendi used to publish the top 10 selling albums for the year plus the previous year up to 2013 in their annual financial reports. In the 2011 edition, Born This Way was shown as having ship 6.8 million during 2011. In their 2012 edition, it was shown with 'only' 5.9 million units during 2011.
You can read them here:
- Vivendi financial report for 2011
- Vivendi financial report for 2012
Hi headshot!
There is difference sources or methods for each country, you need to be more specific in your request! Which figures interest you?
In music industry, Southeast Asia represents the whole Asia outside Japan. If it was overshipped,as the sales figure stated here, it means that 1 million were retured in SEA, that figure was really too big.
Hmmm... I just wanna say that Nicki Minaj is the queen of rap and definitely has more EAS than some artists you have already studied.
Nicki has ruled rap music at some point and has longevity which no other female rapper was able to do.
So even if let's say she didn't have a lot of real votes, she deserves to be prioritized more still especially that she's still doing well on streaming.
Hi,MJD
Do you have reports from Warner and EMI in early years? I can't find them anymore. Also, IFPI deleted their database. This is painful. Digital Music Report 2012/2011/2010 etc and world music sales 2000/2001/2002 etc were all deleted. Plus, do you have market size data in Southeast Asia, Asia, Latin America, Middle East and Africa in 80s? Since they were nowhere to find online, this is so hard to estimate total sales in these markets.
Lady Gaga also outsold Beyonce and the gap between the 3 of them on total pure album sales is like 2 million or less.
So LG is currently above them but it's still possible for Bey and Rih to outsell her someday.
