Forum
Congrats Dan! I suppose Katy owns us a "Marry You"-style song that we can claim we were still on topic 😀
Hello,MJD!
since lots of certifications and sales figures include streaming, how do you estimate pure sales of those countries then?I think only countires like US, Brazil, Korea and Japan give the numbers of pure sales now. Digital downloads sales of thouse countries also remain mystery since they all include streaming.
Hi djdj!
Actually figures for France are widely available too, same for the UK with stand-alone streaming and sales charts it's quite easy to know how many pure sales a song / an album has. These markets already add for the huge majority of global sales for both formats. They also enable to know which records sell well and which stream well. For example P!nk has a great share of her units that come from sales, thus we assume the same for countries where only one merged figure is available. These markets also tell us how much a record sell depending on its position on charts and the market size. The only trick to avoid is the formula used, some countries exclude a large share of streams (like the UK and Australia), so we need to factor it too. All in all it isn't a difficult task, the only boring part is the UK one that forces us to check weekly rankings for the last 2/3 years to distinguish pure sales from streams, it's easy but it takes some time.
but old album sales figures from OCC included streaming,how did you estimate pure sales then?They no longer chart anymore.Also,for markets like lots of countries in Europe and Asia, they don't give the number of pure sales. It is difficult to deal with it. Just use automatic formulas?
Am I the only one who does not load most of the photos? Please fix it, thanks
Hi
I really admire your work
i live in los angles
but I can't speak English properly
I hope you understand me
in austria charts
witnnes
# 6- # 22- # 33- # 48-
joanne
# 9- # 28- # 46-
why do you put 5 thousand for joanne and 2 thousand for witnnes?
since witnnes performed better on the charts
in 2017 was streming included?
witnnes has gold certificate in austria to sell 7,500
and on wilipedia it says that this certificate is for traditional sales
Hi Alisson!
There are 2 key elements there. The first is the period of release. Joanne came out in Q4, Witness in summertime. It takes much more chart sales to get the same chart run in Q4 than in summertime. The second is in fact streaming. Wikipedia is wrong there, streams were counted for Witness, but not for Joanne. These are Austrian rules:
Für Veröffentlichungen ab dem 1.1.2015 wurden für das Erreichen der Prämierungsgrenzen bei Singles auch Premium-Streams berücksichtigt und für
Veröffentlichungen ab dem 1.1.2017 werden auch bei Alben für das Erreichen der Prämierungsgrenzen Premium-Streams mitgezählt
In concrete words, streams are counted for singles released since 2015 and for albums released since 2017.
Thank you very much
Note: I'm a fan of gaga, I'm happy to know that you are her real sales and you didn't inflate lol
I believe that this may explain the fact that witnnes (20 thousand) and joanne (50 thousand) in Germany also
Could you answer another question?
About Madonna
MDNA you put 25 thousand in Spain
Rebel Heart 30,000 in Spain
According to the tables in Spain, MDNA was the 23 best selling album of 2012 and Rebel Heart was the 52 best selling album of 2015
https://www.promusicae.es/documents/viewfile/14-top-50-albumes-2012
https://www.promusicae.es/documents/viewfile/133-top-100-albumes-2015
I think it is strange Rebelde I heard I sold more in Spain than MDNA, since it performed better on the year-end list and in 2012 as sales were better than in 2015
In 2015 were Spain's graphics counting streaming? Is that why MDNA sold more than HR in traditional sales?
hey, didn't Teenage dream (album) exceeded over 20M CSPC units now? and why haven't you updated Katy Perry latest album smile in her album cpsc units ?
hello, could you guys update the numbers? the discography of lady gaga and other artists is already updated here on the site except katy perry!
she barely sold anything in Pure Sales since this, her streams are already updated daily in the All Time List so there's no need...