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(@analord)
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The vast majority of "Album of the year" at the Grammys are completely forgotten today and the opposite is true for critics, just look at the list I posted above, most of these albums are quite popular...

And surely you understand how critics have been historically essential for people interested in non-mainstream music? How else would they have discovered their favorite artists who weren't played on MTV or the radio?


   
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(@Mikko)
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I think this random is from Chartmasters. Check your alcohol consumption.


   
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(@landischorsch)
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I'll just stop responding to your irrelevant insults. Also for the following reason: you just can't find counter-arguments. I've always kept to the point (musically related to the discussion here). You, on the other hand, left this field 2 to 3 posts ago and just insult. I will stop feeding trolls like you. You are quite simply below my level! Point.


   
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(@Mikko)
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Is this Martin?


   
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(@landischorsch)
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There's the problem again with the terms you use. What is "quite popular" and "essential" for you? How do you define that? I take it you're probably saying that your great "critics" are more influential than even the Grammys. For me, "influential" means that I achieve a boost in sales figures. And looking at your list, I can't tell that said albums, after being praised by your amazing critics, would have sold more than, for example, Grammy-awarded albums would have done. But I could name many AOTY winners who also became commercially successful -> significant through their award success. I define that under popular or essential. You might have a different definition for that.

You ask how I came across artists I don't know from radio/MTV. Well, since I know roughly what genres of music I listen to, I naturally look at old charts and best-selling lists and actually also at the Grammys of the past decades. I've learned a lot of things there. For example, if Jeff Porcaro was with Toto (1982 AOTY winner), then I look at what else he did, e.g. played for Al Jarreau, but also for Bruce Springsteen. And with whom did Bruce Springsteen play... That's how my knowledge of what I consider to be relevant music interlocks. To be honest, that would never lead me to the Sex Pistols for example (a group that ranks high on your awesome list). And with good reason too, because they are totally below my understanding of good and aesthetic music. Since Robert Christgau can say so often that Never Mind The Bollocks is rated A. I know that this guy, like other critics, plays no role at all for me and many others because, as I said before, they have absolutely no authority whatsoever to judge music professionally.


   
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(@Mikko)
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So angry, why? Go to an anger management course or therapy and take it easy. And a healthy, sporty life. No alcohol. Some tips.


   
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(@analord)
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"Popular" means popular, again no one cares about 90% of these "Album of the year" while most of critics' favorite albums are very popular.

And so you look at "old charts and best-selling lists" to find music? And previous Grammy winners? 😆 And you don't understand how critics can be useful to discover non-mainstream music? OK, I think I'm done here...


   
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(@analord)
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Martin is a Led Zeppelin fan, I don't think he would praise the Grammys 😆


   
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(@landischorsch)
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Don't worry I know where to find music that isn't on the radio. Since you didn't understand the principle of what I said in my previous post, I'll show to you that I can also find "non-mainstream" music through the Grammys. So when I listen to e.g. Al Jarreau (btw, I got to know him through the Grammys and that's what you define as "non-mainstream" because he didn't sell extremely well and doesn't play on most format radio stations either). Through Al Jarreau, I learned to know George Duke (ever heard of him?), Till Brönner (a German jazz musician, I don't think many know either), Djavan (a Brazilian composer who also worked with The Manhattan Transfer), and so on...
 
With that particular example (there could be many more in other different genres) you see, I get to know quite a bit of "non-mainstream" music, including through the Grammys (but not only). I don't need any unprofessional busybodies like your critics.
 
Then you still haven't explained what you mean by "popular". You just say "most critics' favorite albums are very popular". As opposed to what? How do you determine that? Or can you not explain the term?
 


   
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(@Marlene)
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Michael Jackson's most streamed albums on Spotify:
#1 - Thriller [3,618,399,773]
#2 - Bad [2,200,642,796]
#3 - Off the Wall [1,056,845,817]
#4 - Dangerous [915,809,566]
#5 - XSCAPE [801,077,658]
#6 - HIStory [699,337,990]
#7 - Invincible [283,450,029]


   
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(@Marlene)
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Recently surpassed:

On Spotify: 37 Mio. followers

Billie Jean 1,4 billion

Beat 900 Mio.

Man in the mirror 400 Mio.

You rock my world 100 Mio.

Music and Me 100 Mio.  MJ`s 2. Motown-solo-album to achieve this on the platform.

On You Toube: 28 Mio. followers

Thriller, short version, 200 Mio.

Will you be there, 100 Mio.


   
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 Dan
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Can you update michael jackson? it's getting annoying


   
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(@landischorsch)
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Every artist is to be analyzed once. Why should Michael Jackson be an exception He is not the only relevant artist in the world. There are so many artists which haven't been analyzed yet. Just check at the "Upcoming artists (Leaderboard)".


   
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 Nick
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"It's getting annoying". OK, I'm sure the creators of this site will rush to update MJ's stats since you've whined successfully.


   
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(@Markus Andrew)
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He is ranked #99 as the most requested for a study/update in Chartmasters' "CSPC requests leaderboard". You can try to see if his fans can sign up here or become a member of the site to see if he moves up the ranks and gets the update you want done.


   
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