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hi MJD
I wonder how many units Madonna moved in physical singles in the USA? What about Mariah Carey?
yes, it gained about 1.7-1.8 million, plus a few club sales and a few supermarket sales, you get that nearly 12 million figure.
Hello,mjd Could you post the u.s. physical single sales for Madonna. Somebody claimed that the figure on ukmix has been over estimated a lot.
how could the immaculate collection reach 12m in USA after getting certificated as diamond in 2001? has it nearly gained 2 millions sales from 2002 to 2017? according to billboard this album has only sold 220k from 2009(5.78m)to 2016(5.99m). how could it be possible to sale 1.7m from 2002 to 2009 if this album has really sold 12m in USA?? and bmg + ch club has be gone since 2002/2003, i really dont think it can get a massive sale from music clubs
Hi Madame F!
TIC sales since 2009 aren't reflective at all of its sales from 2001 to 2009, in fact Celebration came out that year, replacing it in retailers' shelves. The album was below 4.8 million Soundscan sales by February 2003 and sold large volumes from late 2001 to that date, and then club sales were still something in 2001-2003 (especially for catalog albums) even though they collapsed after this point.
COADF Japan
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(week no. - international chart pos. - global chart pos. - title - weekly scan - cumulative scan)
2005/11/28 01 [05] COADF (53,063)[53,063]
2005/12/05 02 [07] COADF (43,854)[96,917]
2005/12/12 03 [06] COADF (30,210)[127,127]
2005/12/19 03 [08] COADF (28,295)[155,422]
2005/12/26 03 [11] COADF (22,048)[177,470]
2006/01/02 02 [09] COADF (34,384)[211,854]
2006/01/16 03 [13] COADF (47,448)[259,302]*
2006/01/23 03 [15] COADF (15,294)[274,596]
2006/01/30 01 [11] COADF (17,213)[291,809]
2006/02/06 02 [17] COADF (13,707)[305,516]
2006/02/13 05 [21] COADF (10,007)[315,523]
2006/02/20 07 [27] COADF (8,026) [323,549]
2006/02/27 07 [29] COADF (6,759) [330,308]
2006/03/06 07 [36] COADF (6,667) [336,975]
2006/03/13 06 [27] COADF (7,983) [344,958]
2006/03/20 07 [37] COADF (7,277) [352,235]
2006/03/27 10 [52] COADF (4,934) [357,169]
2006/04/03 13 [54] COADF (4,383) [361,552]
2006/04/10 15 [57] COADF (3,626) [365,178]
2006/04/17 14 [54] COADF (3,332) [368,510]
2006/04/24 20 [67] COADF (2,775) [371,285]
2006/05/01 [82] COADF (2,283) [373,568]
2006/05/08 [108] COADF (2,198) [375,766]
2006/05/15 [93] COADF (2,466) [378,232]
2006/05/22 [112] COADF (1,653) [379,885]
2006/05/29 [137] COADF (1,243) [381,128]
2006/06/05 [128] COADF (1,533) [382,661]
2006/06/12 [128] COADF (1,322) [383,983]
2006/06/19 [122] COADF (1,324) [385,307]
2006/06/26 [113] COADF (1,407) [386,714]
2006/07/03 [143] COADF (1,346) [388,060]
2006/07/10 [147] COADF (1,327) [389,387]
2006/07/17 [117] COADF (1,443) [390,830]
2006/07/24 [110] COADF (1,615) [392,445]
2006/07/31 [107] COADF (1,794) [394,239]
2006/08/07 [116] COADF (2,035) [396,274]
2006/08/14 [112] COADF (1,768) [398,042]
2006/08/21 [121] COADF (1,647) [399,689]
2006/08/28 [115] COADF (1,721) [401,410]
2006/09/04 10 [27] COADF tour ed. (5,731) [5,731]
2006/09/11 [252] COADF reg. ed. [402,222]
2006/09/11 18 [40] COADF tour ed. (4,042) [9,773]
2006/09/18 [49] COADF tour ed. (3,399) [13,172]
2006/09/18 [273] COADF reg. ed. (782) [403,004]
2006/09/25 20 [41] COADF tour ed. (3,403) [16,575]
2006/09/25 [73] COADF reg. ed. (1,941) [404,945]
2006/10/02 14 [42] COADF tour ed. (3,922) [20,497]
2006/10/02 [69] COADF reg. ed. (2,315) [407,260]
2006/10/09 [61] COADF tour ed. (2,599) [23,096]
2006/10/09 [87] COADF reg. ed. (2,021) [409,281]
2006/10/16 [105] COADF tour ed. (1,410) [24,506]
2006/10/16 [138] COADF reg. ed. (1,086) [410,367]
2006/10/23 [113] COADF tour ed. (1,266) [25,772]
2006/10/23 [110] COADF reg. ed. (1,296) [411,663]
2006/10/30 [165] COADF tour ed. (912) [26,684]
2006/10/30 [125] COADF reg. ed. (1,083) [412,746]
2006/11/06 [254] COADF tour ed. (727) [27,411]
2006/11/13 [265] COADF tour ed. (618) [28,029]
2006/11/20 [258] COADF tour ed. (613) [28,642]
2007/01/22 [259] COADF reg. ed. (765) [413,511]
Cumulative:
Confessions On A Dance Floor (regular edition): 413,511 (copies sold while on top300)
Confessions On A Dance Floor (Japan Tour Special Edition) [CD+DVD]): 28,642 (copies sold while on top300)
Total for COADF (both versions): 442,153
* = 2006/01/09 + 2006/01/16 charts
I think COADF cannot sell much more afterwards in Japan. I wonder how it could sold 600k in Japan in total?Oricon was already counting completely back then, and digital album sales were super small during 2005 and 2006 according to RIAJ. So I wonder how it sold 600k eventually in Japan. I think realisticly, COADF should have just sold around 500k copies totally there. It would keep selling 1 thousand copoies with both versions in just a few months at most and then almost stop selling I guess.
Also, LAP only certified P=60k in Argentina and it was certified in the 90s I remember, so how could it climb to 200k in total?
Hi MJD do you know how many copies Madame X sold since it’s been out Last June
Dear MJD, you might have missed the fact Madonna's legacy has been partly annexed (for lack of a better word) by MM (Modest Mussorgsky) supporters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_impact_of_Madonna#In_Russia
I've noticed 9 of her songs (she is styled in local script https://kworb.net/itunes/artist/D0BCD0B0D0B4D0BED0BDD0BDD0B0.html) on Russian iTunes all-time chart: https://kworb.net/popru/cumulative.html
Can you tell her overall iTunes sales in Russia for each of her recent releases, please?
Looks Like Madam X album sales have flopped and her tour has been broken up, so Madonna has had a poor 12 months. When she has her update ( hopefully soon) it should show about 5mil increase. Still holding on to 5th place overall though.
Whats your point and nobody cares how she ranked, like 5th or 9th, she is still the most successful female artist of all time. If she cant rank high in the overall chart, its just prove sexism and age discrimination the world show.
First of, you claim nobody cares about ranking, then go straight to ranking her, based on her sex, then have to cheek to claim the world is sexist!
Yeah, Martin, but during Queen years the world was homophobic a lot more than it was sexist, imho. Mercury and Co. were underrated (in media => charts) for more than 40 years. MJD and rockism fans highly doubt the same is going to happen for Madonna, considering her promotion by Interscope Records and ban of her 2010s material on the mainstream radio.
Rock fans are happy, Madonna fans are angry about rock fans being happy about poor Madonna sales (as both rock and pop are about selling an image, first). As a classical music fan, I'm more than happy about Madonna revealing her Modest-Mussorgsky-DNA connection, because it's a very cool opportunity for classical music promotion and cinematography. In the future.
The world is surely sexist during the last century. Especially in the third world. Period. Before Madonna female artists are even much harder to beat male artists.
That's fine. At least she's still earning weĺl as a solo artist. Madonna has a lot of successful albums and tours before and continues to release albums and do tours cos she's still alive.
I'm not sure it was more homophobic, than sexist. Obviously homophobia was more outlawed and people were more vociferous about it but sexism was rife, still is. I think the thing with a lot of sexism, back in Queens time, was that it was accepted as the norm and entrenched within society. The general public, I don't think viewed a lot of things as sexist, just as "that's the way things are", with a lot of women/girls etc included in this way of thinking or perceiving things.
IMO and from a UK perspective, the majority of people just did not seem to give a damn about Freddies sexuality. I even knew idiots that were clearly homophobic, but loved Queen and just somehow excused Freddie!
No one is saying it wasn't or that it still isn't or that it wasn't long before the 20th century.
I was highlighting you saying; "Whats your point and nobody cares how she ranked, like 5th or 9th". Only to then comment about her being ranked 1st amongst females!? So, you do care about how she is ranked but only amongst females, not overall? I just found it ironic, to bring up sexism (and ageism) as the problem, when you're the one that is being sexist, by wanting to just rank females against females and not everyone.
It isn't about sexism, it's about the lasting appeal of music. Rock acts will pass her because rock doesn't go out of style like pop music. Hence why pop artists have to reinvent themselves all the time, whereas rock musicians just do their own thing and it works. So madonna falling down the list is simply due to her being the only pop artist up there; it has nothing to do with sexism. It's actually quite impressive for a pure pop act to even get up that high in the first place! So there's nothing to be upset about and no reason to make up ridiculous excuses.
Thanks for your opinion about the central Anglosphere, Martin. Based on my experience, Queen fans seem to be pretty sure Madonna fans are stupid and poorly educated morons who have a bad taste because they can't tell which music is more virtuous and better in general, while thinking it's obvious as 2+2*4 than Queen music is better than Madonna music, and only gays and feminists support Madonna because of non-musical causes: her sex, image, political message.
Considering Queen and their third world success, e.g. in Russia, the"righteousness" and the legitimacy of Freddie was based on his popularisation of classical music within the non-classical world. This aura has protected him from homophobia during the 70s-90s. The success of The Beatles as "almost Schubert spiritual ancestors" was promoted heavily in the Soviet Union, where classical music basically was an official religious cult - with 3000+ children music schools in Russia only, preparing 6-14 y. o. children for (life in Putin's Mordor) or hundreds of Music Colleges, preparing students for life as a music school teachers or dozen of Conservatories...
So, there's something that could protect Madonna from sexism, too.
1). American musicologist Susan McClary was trying to link Madge to Monteverdi in the 1980s (see "Feminine Endings").
2). In 2003, the author of "Revelations of Guardian Angels: Reincarnation" (bestseller - 100k+ copies) was officially excommunicated from the Russian Orthodox Church by claiming Madonna is re-incarnated Beethoven soul, among others, and so on.
3). In 2005, COADF had a luck to be analyzed by Moscow Conservatory students from theoretical point of view, and was labeled "dance symphony". Recently she's revealed her House of Rurik DNA which makes her related to the one and only self-taught Modest Mussorgsky, and his "Boris Godunov" with Pretender as a protagonist ("if it happened once, you know it happens twice"), famous fountain scene (almost "When you call my name..."). This narrative makes her songs a lot more interesting and mysterious.
Thus, Madonna channels in Barocco, German classicism-romanticism and Russian romanticism, all these musical traditions in her "stupid female pop songs", consciously or unconsciously. And classical music needs promotion these days because the majority of people have doubts about its relevance. Madonna can prove classical music's ability to solve almost every problem, thanks to music theory apparat.
IMHO, you can call it a conspiracy theory, in pop music, it's classical music fans in upper classes who were deciding what's allowed to be popular among the masses, most of the time. Green Day's "American Idiot" was OK, while Madge's "American Life" was NO which turned into universal NO for Madonna in US (it's a lifetime ban and virtual ex-communication). But in the long term, Madonna is not done. There are more than a hundred Modest Mussorgky "shows" each season, all over the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modest_Mussorgsky#Statistics
Madonna's legacy looks pretty safe in a 100+ year period. ))
All Madonna albums from the 80s and 90s sold more than any Queen's studio albums released during their time. To say you're a fan of classic music to overvalue Queen repertoire is pathetic.
