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If you guys work with shipments then why Femme Fatale is at 850k? It was platinum by RIAA
It was not completely safe.
https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=UBAEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA58&lpg=PA58&dq=utada+first+love+china+200000+legitimate+copies&source=bl&ots=BWynkzCYhw&sig=ACfU3U0LNE0VTVEb-j_JCv_02U-DuD-VrA&hl=zh-CN&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiFxoGwio_kAhVm_XMBHUBLASgQ6AEwCnoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=utada%20first%20love%20china%20200000%20legitimate%20copies&f=false
First Love by Utada Hikaru sold 200k legitimate copies in China. Since BOMT was more popular than First Love in China, in my opinion, BOMT may also sold something high like that. Plus imports in countries like Vietnam (Brintey was massive there, check YouTube Music Insights), that is still possible.
Hi Brit!
We work with net shipment to date. At times, albums fail to sell their initial shipment and many copies are returned to the label. If the certification was requested before returns, an album may get a Plat disc in spite of having updated net shipments under the million mark. To limit this effect, the RIAA already implemented a rule that forbids certs in the first month of release. That's the exact reason why FF was certified on 29/4 while released on 29/3, because they had got that million shipped so they quickly got it awarded as they knew they were going to get a lot of returns soon enough!
Hello MJD,
I just noticed something. Why are ITZ's sales in India back to 5,000 copies? I thought they had been fixed to 25,000?
https://chartmasters.org/2017/05/bonus-gift-the-truth-about-britney-spears-album-sales-part-2/12/
Thanks.
I wonder where the sales in Brazil come from ? Similarly, there are the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand and Malaysia. 'Baby one more time.....' actually certified a gold, 10W+ in Brazil , and 37.5W+ in Mexico. Most Asian countries don't have a ranking list or certification at all, if it's just provided by fans, the data is very questionable.
Hi ChartMasters, any reason as to why you are not counting vinyl sales? In the Zone is the 37th best selling album this week in America because of vinyl sales. I think they need to be accounted for. 5 000 vinyls sold. Cheers. Eternium.
Oops I Did It Again and Britney sold 5. 000 vinyl copies each this year too and charted on Billboard. Eternium.
Are you from China? Since you used "W" for numbers and know these certifications, I bet you are even from Baidu Tieba. Well,I know how MJD calculated these figures, they were all provived by official sources. There were nothing questionable.
Hi Eternium!
Vinyl sales are obviously counted - all pre-90s albums which sold tens of millions would be nowhere near as high without this format!
Hello MJD,
I think you made a mistake with ITZ's sales in India. You previously fixed them to 25,000 copies, but here they are back to 5,000. Why is that?
https://chartmasters.org/2017/05/bonus-gift-the-truth-about-britney-spears-album-sales-part-2/12/
Can you please look into it? If you do, please consider updating its sales in the US, too. After this update, the album got re-issued on vinyl after on two different occasions for a total of 8,000 copies. Surely 7 million is a more realistic figure now.
https://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shop/britney-spears-in-the-zone-limited-lp2 (5,000)
https://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shop/britney-spears-in-the-zone-limited-lp-clear (3,000)
Thank you for your valuable hard work. 🙂
So, where is the certification? What I need is not ‘provived by official sources’ but reliable source.
In fact, although I hate fans‘exaggeration, as long as the data is true, it can be accepted.
Can 'Britney promo book' be a reliable resource? Jive once claimed that BOMT had sold 27 million copies . It seems that you‘re used to regarding news or announcement by record company as certification . More than that, ‘Since BOMT was more popular than First Love in China’, you even estimate sales based on your emotions . I guess you should be a Chinese fan of Ayxxx, Mxxxx and Britney, is that right? You also try to evaluate the previous popularity based on current popularity ( YouTube), it's another mistake since popularity may not decline synchronously. In addition, you may not have to ask questions here with two IDs, 'but'&'djdj'.
"but" is not me, and it was really no doubt that BOMT was more popular than First Love in China, even on streaming platforms. A normal Chinese can naturely feel it. I never estimated sales based on emotions, it was just a fact. The YouTube Charts did evaluate popularity though, although popularity may not decline synchronously, but it was still a valuable source and it did evaluate catalog popularity. I am not a fan of Britney though, I am Madonna's fan. You should understand that record company don't lie and inflate sales in the past, BOMT was actually reported as a 22 million seller and OIDA at 17 million. Record company is the only very reliable source, because that's what IFPI report. IFPI reports are all from record company sources. What you read inflate sales now were just to promote the artist, in fact record company itself never lie to IFPI, and in the past they don't lie too. They only lie to media to the people at present. It is very important to find real record company figures, because it is the only reliable source.
