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That's a good point about the spotify numbers, I think what makes Marvin's numbers look better is that he has songs like Ain't No Mountain High Enough...

I would be curious if Marvin Gaye outsold Stevie Wonder. I know Marvin does very well on Spotify.

I'm American and I see those kind of all the time myself regarding several acts. Many Americans assume that if a band/group/solo artist was big in Ame...

Also, for what it's worth, I consider the EAS of Ten very impressive. I didn't think it would be above 30 million.

Nirvana has that "mystique" due to the suicide of Kurt plus how his death has been romanticized by both the media and Nirvana fans("he died for his ar...

I wouldn't call Mariah's music "pure R&B". Especially her early music. She's more on the pop side of R&B but it certainly became more R&B ...

The top 20 is mostly legacy artists, not ones that peaked during the streaming era.

It could be that she is more global since she peaked during the streaming age which gives her an advantage in some ways over the people you mentioned....

Apologies, I just realized you were talking about Selena Gomez, not Selena. Oops!

Bigger than Shakira? No. More global? Based on the info in this article, yes. Selena streams incredibly well on youtube considering she's been dead fo...

How can a list be overrated?

Horrendous. From A list to shitty commercials lol.

I think this is unfair to Taylor (who I don't even like). Katy Perry hasn't had a huge hit since Dark Horse and her older hits still stream very well....

Madonna took a huge hits in America with 1992 (the Sex book) and 2003 (American Life). Truthfully, I think those things impacted her catalogue sales t...

I am a Madonna fan actually (I don't even like Taylor). Yes, I know that Madonna has outsold Taylor so far.But given the performance of Taylor's catal...

I agree with you actually. Regarding Taylor's popularity, I have to admit that if you told me two years ago that Taylor could possibly overtake Ma...

It looks like Taylor may end up overtaking Madonna as the most successful female artist ever. Anyway to calculate how long that would take based on th...

Like a Prayer sold much more than I'm Your Baby Tonight using the EAS method.

Yes, it all comes down to how you define them. Early Beatles were/are definitely considered pop as were The Supremes and 60s Marvin Gaye and 60s Stevi...

I think that is the title lol

Would you say pop music in general is taken more seriously now than it was back in the 80s and 90s? TBH, I think the "poptimism" movement really began...

Definitely. Aretha was notoriously competitive with other female singers but I read that she considered Barbra her equal and admired her.

She did? I thought Celine destroyed Madonna in Asia. Especially considering her peak was the mid to late 90s when the Asian market was much bigger tha...

In Barbra's case, I'm not surprised. But Janet's lack of appeal among younger people today is disappointing.

Material Girl also became the most shared 80s song on tik tok, beating out Bad by Michael Jackson. That was about a year ago not sure if that is still...