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I believe the record mentioned for the Beatles is concerning back-to-back-to-back WEEKS, meaning the 3 #1 hits mentioned (I Want To Hold Your Hand, She Loves You, Can't Buy Me Love) held the top spot for 14 consecutive weeks (7+2+5), with She Loves You replacing Hand, then Can't Buy Me Love replacing She Loves You on the Hot 100.
Whitney's 7 consecutive #1 relates to 7 uninterrupted consecutive singles that have reached #1, but they were achieved from 1985-1988 with time gaps between them.
If we look at the album's ranking, it currently sits at #9, ahead of Pink Floyd's TDSOTM and slightly below Led Zeppelin IV.
It's hard to say for sure Abbey Road is Top 10 as Pink Floyd's and Led Zeppelin's articles are quite old, and an update might push them far above Abbey Road, or not. Updates of other artists' articles might even push albums outside the Top 10 into it.
There's also the case of albums surpassing it in the near, with the most obvious case being Adele's 21 (#14 with 54m units, currently doing 2m per year).
But as of right now, I'd say Abbey Road is likely a Top 10 album of all time, albeit on the lower end. That is, unless, some untreated artist suddenly has a massive album that we're missing, but I don't think that's the case.
That was what I was thinking too, future updates on other artists could push their albums higher into the top 10 as well (as you mentioned, Led Zeppeling IV and Dark Side of the Moon). This will be interesting to see!
Hi mate, maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but how can The Beatles be the only major artist, done prior to using Discogs, if artists such as Led Zeppelin, U2, Madonna and Pink Floyd (amongst others) were all analysed prior to The Beatles? Also, the Led Zeppelin analysis only includes their major worldwide releases and not any of the minor releases that appear on Discogs.
Probably due to the changes in calculating the EAS themselves, in reality I believe they sold somewhere between 30-40m since the last article, still very big
If we look at pure album sales, yes, they likely sold a little more in the 90s than in the 60s. In CSPC terms, we would need to add EPs and physical singles, which would put the 60s ahead!
Sorry for the misleading comment, I started replying on Smiley's list, refering to them as 'major' artists, Elvis, MJ and Queen. In a second step I looked at a broader picture, and listed older (than the Beatles') articles for 100m+ sellers.
Among all these artists, Led Zep are definitely the most outdated. It was one of the very first studies, done mostly to explain the mechanics of the CSPC idea, album sales were my 2012 estimates extrapolated with 2016 Soundscan increases (say if an album added 5% extra sales in 2012-2016 in the US, the same ratio was applied to all countries), and downloads weren't estimated as such, instead they are a direct ratio of streams. Although as I said, they do not have too many minor releases so that wouldn't add for as much as the Beatles. Accuracy-wise yet their study is in the low side for sure!
Guillaume, ah OK, I get you. Yes, Zep probably have the least releases outwith their main discography, of all artists from that era.
Freek, pretty sure Madonna and Floyd were originally done in 2017 and The Beatles in 2018.
If or when, they are updated, as they always seem to just about get there but then some fanbase comes along and knocks them down, from a position of being analysed, how would we treat Jimmy Pages session work?
Would we give nothing towards his total, as he was anonymous, even although he, in all cases, played on the tracks and in many cases helped write some of them, writing guitar parts and arranging and producing them. It seems a bit disingenuous, that someone featured on a track, who might have only done, say a 20 second rap, gets a percentage of that tracks success, yet Page who contributed in a lot of cases far, far more to a track, would get nothing.
You should do blackpink too imo. They are bigger than seventeen as globally. Yes seventeen sells more pure but bp success across every format is untouchable. Look at their massive tour
just wondering when bing crosby cspc will be published , Early next year? would be good to find out the sales revenue of older music acts pre 1960's for contrast to modern acts .
At the risk of being an insufferable know-it-all: Lennon and McCartney were first done at the end of 2018, maybe with a streaming masters update for the Beatles. Their article was written atthr beginning of 2017.
Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan and the Rolling Stones was completed at the end of 2016. David Bowie at the beginning of 2017. Dylan and Stones are global artists and each has more than 300 collections around the world. Each of the above are catalog sellers at the same level. Dylan has released 3 studio albums and a dozen or so box sets since the previous date. On 12/24 , Dylan's film from 1962-65, Complete Unknown, premieres. Springsteen, Jackson biopics will premiere in 2025.