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Oh, you still with Live 8? Well Queen had Wembley 1986 which has tons of videos with millions of views, and examples of this are Love Of My Live and BoRhap. The concert in Budapest in 1986, which was the first concert of a occidental band in a communist country, only done before by Elton John un Moscow. The Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert, which had 1 billion television viewers. Queen also has millions of views thanks to concerts, and always remember, Queen’s performance in Live Aid is the biggest in music history (voted by 77% of people in a BBC poll) and Madonna, no matter Live Aid and Live 8 together, is behind Queen. Michael Jackson does not have the opportunity to be more popular than Queen in 50 years, unfortunately, because he is dead. Queen is aging better than any other artist, and how things are happening, only The Beatles can surpass Queen in popularity in 50 years. Maybe.
I guess you are embarrased. You pointed out media innacirate is useless. Media is the pop stars all about. When media says it, thats it. thats the thing for pop stars. Saying;"nobody trust wiki" do not make Queens cultural impact bigger than Madonna. The sadness is no fans even want to creat a page like this to describe their cultural imapct. Obviously because they have no cultural imapct but only We Will Rock You and We Are The Champions. Madonna not only make music but also realese table books and children books. They are all the best selling of all time. Madonnas cultural imapct is way more than just music. So if you are talking about streams and current music popularity, Queen win. But stop using the word"imapct".
Concerts? Madonna grossed nearly 1.5 billion dollars from tours, with over 15 million attendance. Whos That Girl Tour in Paris broke the Paris attendance record with 130k people."the biggest in music industry" vote is for BBC which means British people. If the vote is now it may not be them. Madonna's performances on VMAs, for example,iconic LAV performance in 1984, Vogue in 1990, and kissing Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera in 2003. They are all of what makes Madonna famous and legendary. Her super bowl half time show used to break viewers record and is the first half time show to have viewers higher than the game itself. Madonna opended several stadiums in Russia, those communist thing dont matter. Her album Ray of Light sold 250k in Russia and COAD at over 100k. Even MDNA sold over 70k there and is the best selling album of 2012. She was also massive in Middle Eastern countires like Israel and Turkey, selling tons of albums and open big stadiums several times and tickets always sell hugely well. MJD is maybe mad now while you said that Michael Jackson will be always less popular than Queen in later years. But we dont know so talking about this is pointless
Well they do not only have these two songs, my wrong. But however, the two songs is the most famous songs by Queen I mean.Bohemian Rhapsody is their most successful single, but just most people never knew this song, unlike We Will Rock You. It is weird.
Djdj your talking utter rubbish and are very nieve and blinkered in Madonna world.
And I think you blinkered in your Queen music world. You are talking rubbish. Its just a fact that Queen only has an impact on music. Anyway, I never mention cultural impact first. and some of you started. It is just rediculous Madonna is one of the ten most cultutal idol in the world in 100 years studied by TIME magazine.
Do you think it is necessary to have a page showing your cultural IMPACT? Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Queen, Frank Sinatra, they are all huge and they don’t have their own WiKiPeDiA page. Also, pls stop quotating US pages. I don’t think it is a coincidence that 3 from the 4 artists that have a WiKiPeDiA page are from the United States. Madonna is big everywhere, yes, but in the US her figure is bigger than in the whole world.
US figure is that big that you’ll find more articles about Beyoncé and Rihanna than Queen.
Madonna only sold 71 million albums in US but 202 million worldwide. She sold three times big worldwide as in US. She did about 28 million physical singles in US but a massive 75 million globally, again nearly three times big worldwide as in US. Don't know why you are always talking about US US, Madonna has been flopped in US since 2003 because of American Life. AL moved only 800k units in US but 3.35 million globally. COAD moved 1.85 million in US but 9.325 million globally. Madonna is never ever bigger in US. Hung Up was a number one hit single in 41 countries breaking Guiness World Reocords, but that 41 countries do not include US. Hung Up was only peaked at #7 in US while literally #1 in any other country! Plus, Madonna sold 202 million albums, which include 71 million in US and 79 million in Europe, so she sold 51 million albums in the world outside of US&Europe. Still more than Queen. And if you talking about single sales, even way more. Madonna has 15 number one hit on European Hot 100 singles, the most for any artist. If you talk about cultural impact, thats.....uh uh. And that page was not United States. Just check. There are lots of Russian things in that page, check
Beyonce and Rihanna sold way less albums in US than Queen. And Rihanna is always considered massively global. Rihanna moved less than 12 million albums in US but nearly 15 million in Europe, and a stunning nearly 34 million worldwide. Although Beyonce is not that popular in Europe so she is not considered global, however, she was also huge in Asia(flopped since 4 era) and Africa.
Djdj sound like you just believe everything you read that has a positive quote about Madonna, the true facts are here on Chartmasters and they put Queen ahead overall of Madonna end of. Madonna is spent force I'm afraid mate.
So to summarize - Queen is better than Madonna in every conceivable and inconceivable way.
Im not saying that Madonna's music CSPC is more. You are understanding sth wrong. Stans always think like that. Its kind of pathetic since Madonna is a solo artist, a band want to compete with a solo artist. Crazy. Why dont you even say that Queen has 5 persons and Madonna is solo? lol. A solo artist could not be compared to a band. Especial who do not even has a Grammy and has a poor performance on music reviews from for example Rolling Stone. British dont make sense. Adele wins a lot of Grammys. Queen's music is for commercial performances to make money for record labels. Madonna not only make music she shot moovies won Golden Globe Award. When stans understand nothing they would say "you believe everything you read". ChartMasters is about music. And I repeated over and over again Madonna released a table book and becaming the best selling of all time with over 1.5 million copies. Her children book also became the best selling of all time, thats not just positive, thats a fucking fact. Her cultural impact has effected way much in the whole world, not only cultural but also social.
In total CSPC. If we only see physical sales, Madonna is way more and that prooved that in pre-internet era's popularity. in recent years Queens legency got reminded. And in music reviews and awards from the authority music industry Queen may be not that good.
I never compared Rihanna’s and Beyoncé’s sales with the ones of Queen lol. I just said that US influence is so big over the world you’ll find more articles about both than Queen.
Well I think this should end so let’s leave it like this. Queen aged better than Madonna. Madonna in her time was more influencial. And that both are part of the most influencial artists in history.
Dan, where did you get that conclusion? At least I’ve said that Madonna did had better sales and was more influencial. And now the one that has better sales and is more influencial is Queen.
Madonna has the opportunity of grossing 1.5 billion dollars and 15 million attendance because she is alive. Queen maybe could’ve achieve something like that, but Freddie is dead. Queen (in the not so-many-time that Madonna had) did memorable things. Queen (well everyone) in Rock in Rio has the biggest paid attendance, somewhere between 200k and 250k people. And yes both have memorable things in concerts. About the Iron Curtain, the multiple concerts Madonna had in RUSSIA and their good album sales, may have influence of Queen. Queen didn’t entered Russia, they entered the USSR, which didn’t even had a McDonald’s at the time. The Communist thing DO matters, Queen entered there as the first band in a place where everything that was from a capitalist country was looked in a bad way.
Queen worldwide album sales without US (192-47) = 155 million sales.
Without Europe (155-97) = 58 million sales.
Madonna worldwide album sales without US (202-71) = 131 million sales.
Without Europe (131-79) = 52 million sales.
Also Queen, with 97 million, is the biggest seller in Europe (go check it up).
Queen has 50 million physical sales, in this one Madonna wins; but I think she doesn’t in the digital sales, in which Queen has 60 million sales.
Well I don’t matter about chart results. Queen had 2 n.1 singles and one n.1 album in America and even though they have MUCH more superior sales to those chart results. Imagine having much more time and better chart results than Queen in Europe and even though, Queen has more sales in overall. In the US, it is almost impossible that Queen tops Madonna unless it is streaming, so there she wins.
Madonna can chose what to release, what to record, etc. Queen is a band. Everyone had to make a grupal decision, which not always made everyone happy. Also Madonna can do anything she wants until she is dead. Queen can’t release more albums, or make giant, and very tiring, tours because their unique lead singer and teammate is dead. Being a band not always is a benefit, it also has cons.
Well, did you know that Rolling Stone named Queen the first fascist band after Jazz release in 1979? Imagine if that happened with Madonna. Clearly, something is not ok. I may say Queen was the artist that received more bad critics without deserving it in the whole history of music industry, most bothering Freddie. Fortunately, Queen aged very well and press and media started to respect them. Rolling Stone is a US magazine, and being British does matter. Go and see how many artists from US and how many from the UK are in the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. Also it matters for the Grammys. Adele and The Beatles, they both are UK artists that won a lot of Grammys; but there is more than that. The Grammys are from United States of America. The Brits are for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. There you will see that Queen has a lot of awards.
Also, please, if you don’t want to talk about all the awards of Bohemian Rhapsody (movie) and its sales and the music sales it consequently produced, don’t talk about Madonna’s Golden Globe and her 1.5 million seller book for kids (the fucking fact).
I said I was going to leave it there but sorry I wanted to answer some things ahhahahhahahjwtshjsysbsjdjjd.
OMG sorry do some maths. 192-47=145 million.145-97=48 million.
Madonna has a better performances on European charts because of her records sell fast and then drop. Thats benefited for chart peaks and some years' in and out. Queen is selling a little slow but they are selling the whole time. European album sales Queen win but dont know about single sales. which Madonna should be around 40 million physcal(75m WW, including about 28m in US and over 2m in Japan, rest of the world outside of US, Japan, Australasia, Europe do not have a large single markets so basically around 40 million there)
