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Think that I Want To Break Free is well over 1B streams now on Spotify (all versions). So I believe it should be 6 songs over 1B on the streamed artists lists? Queen's next one I think will be Crazy Little Thing Called Love - for some reason, its streaming levels have surged. p.s.: this is a great site - the Lord's 'go to' for sensible and well-researched music sales information.
Yes, I Want To Break is currently on 1,142,064,516 streams, across all versions, on Spotify.
Assuming current popularity levels, yes, Crazy Little Thing Called Love would be the next one to cross 1B.
It's currently on 819,593,362, which lags behind Somebody To Loves total of 888,965,022 but it's last daily total was 836k compared to Somebodys 356k. Just multiplying these totals, Crazy would hit 1B in 216 days and Somebody in 312. Killer Queen is not that far behind Crazy on 814,044,986 and last added 472k and which would hit 1B in 394 days.
I see that the Queen - Elvis gap has been reduced from 50m (last Queen update) to 40m. At this rate, there's a chance..
Hard to believe this is the case. Elvis sales, especially physical sales, have been fierce after the film. Perhaps the best-selling artist on Amazon. In addition, the streams were nice. Yes, Chartmasters apparently no longer counts physical sales, it explains. Elvis' sales have been underestimated and Jackson's and Queen's overestimated. Chartmasters are biased, favoring their own favorites. I read that at one time even the Billboard charts were manipulated and the UK charts as well. That is, official lists.
To be honest, it's a bit tiring to read that there are always users who have their doubts about the estimation process without actually contributing anything constructive.
And why you're coming forward with this accusation now that you've been commenting on here for so long...?
No one that contributes to the site, displays any kind of favouritism, towards any artist, when it comes to sales. We just do not think or work that way.
The truth of the matter is, it's all in your head.
In 2006, MJD claimed that MJ has sold 202 million albums, more albums sold than EP (UK.mix). Now EP has sold more albums than MJ. MJ died in 2009 and his sales skyrocketed. Still, the EP has passed. MJ had not sold 202 million albums in 2006, but approx. 140-150 million. So even then, MJ had to be number one. Do you notice a contradiction?
Yes Mikko, I've noticed many contradictions over the years but that's to be expected, as a lot of it was educated guess work. The passing of time, new technology, new ideas, new methods, new information etc obviously helps to paint a clearer picture, just like it does in say science, with many previous conclusions proving incorrect or out.
Would you not rather this approach, than some kind of religious approach, where we never question anything, never change anything, never update anything, never see fault in our original beliefs, never admit that we maybe got it wrong etc
MJ's mistake of over 50 million is too much. MJ's sales are well documented. I have nothing else.
Who else but you talks about "MJ's mistake"? Of course I mean someone – in contrast to you – who can provide facts. Regional certified shipments are well documented elsewhere, if that's what you mean.
As already written, you've been a user here for years (longer than me) and apparently you still don't understand ChartMasters' philosophy:
It's not about presenting already known information, but rather about estimating as accurately as possible the sales that are NOT covered by certifications, using certified facts PLUS mathematical/statistical methods, which are adequately explained at certain points.
Everyone is free to believe the results as well as to suggest improvements with the aim of obtaining even more precise estimates. But basically your last sentence says everything about your "argumentation" scheme.
There's really no need to say anything more about this.
You're always foaming at the mouth, but you don't understand the essentials. You're talking beside the point. I'm sorry I had to say it. You could also write in a neutral, friendly tone.
You're expecting friendliness from your counterpart and in the same post, you're accusing me of being “foaming at the mouth” while complaining about “contradiction” in general. Find the mistake.
Another thing:
You're obviously confusing the need for objectivity and neutrality. I am not neutral. I have a clear point of view, which I will present again and again at the appropriate time and place. But I remain objective. This means, especially for this forum, that I leave my personal taste in music out of my own evaluation/discussion of the analyzes listed here. Apparently you Mikko can't do that. But it doesn't worry me, because I can easily take the liberty of leaving a discussion if it turns into something personal, as you have urged. And then the pattern repeats itself:
Like with any other discussion, if you Mikko don't have any factual arguments to offer, then you start insulting (also on this point). And that's the moment for me to end the conversation with you.
Keep having fun here.
You talk beside the point all the time. But even if we disagree, we can communicate (write) in a friendly tone. Anyway, at least we can agree to disagree. Kindness and understanding are the keys to democratic thinking.
Given Queen had their 50th anniversary in there, toured the world, and released a rediscovered/recreated song I wouldn't be surprised if the gap is closer to 30m if updated.
