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so u meant to say MJ is not as relevant as the queen?lol before that movie both were at same level on spotify despite MJ having only about half the number of tracks as queen hv, just bcz they are outstreaming him now u cant say jackson had a peak long ago and indirectly hint at him being not as relevant ?? and what about Youtube streams? y only talk about Spotify? when u r speaking about absolute numbers its ok to say they are outsreaming but when u r trying to imply RELEVANCE u hv to see the number of tracks that are generating such numbers,,,,just bcz MJ has only 6.5b spotify streams with only some 300 tracks doesnt mean he is not relevant,,,,even without the help of any movie his youtube streams are still higher
strictly on popularity terms his moonwalk and billie jean dance alone is sufficient and now as of numbers well for someoene with 300 tracks and to hv a 6.5b plays on spotify is as good as anyone(legacy artist) can have without a boost from a blockbuster movie(infact there was only a slandering documentary) what do u mean by Mj does not have any opportunity to be more popular trhan queen?? lol his thriller is still played throughout the world during Halloween and his dance continues to be imitated and if u r commenting based on streaming numbers u never know MJ too might have a pro movie ,did u expect queen to be outsreaming MJ by such a margin some 3years ago? how can u judge popularity based on spotify only? what about youtube?? and lets not forget Queen members are still sometimes touring and performing ,,once the movie effect saturates and rest of the queen members retire and may be A pro MJ documentary MJ could be again outstreaming...Popularity alone by means of current streams cannot be assessed
lol MJ's ASR IS 1000 so according to chartmasters he is the most successful artist of all time ur hatred towards MJ with multiple fake accounts amazes me,,if u r thinking MJ's influence is not as big as the beatles just see the sales of jackson outside US and the number of top selling albums,,,,spotify spotify why r u keep blabbering about only spotify streams? there is a world outside spotify ,,what about youtube streams?? last but not least MJ has only some 300 tracks
Don't place such importance on the number of tracks or number of albums, volume of releases has little bearing on popularity or how well a catalogue is streamed.
Prime examples of acts with smaller discographies outperforming those with much larger ones are;
The Beatles > Elvis Presley,
Led Zeppelin > Celine Dion
Mariah Carey > Barbara Streisand
I’m looking at my childish comments when I knew nothing and I was new here. Sorry to everyone 😭 (Queen is still bigger than Madonna tho 💅🏻).
Lol it happens when we r new 😂yeah right now Queen's music > Madonna's music ..
Agree with You ..U definitely made a valid point ..but MJ's is different case Queen's streamings were similar to MJ till 2017(infact audio+video streams less than MJ back then) so does that mean they were not relevant to public as that person implied MJ isn't relevant today...???His most noted albums or his work is limited to mostly only 6 albums he released as an adult solo artist..I'm not making any excuse here before that movie he had more 100m+ tracks on Spotify than any other legacy artist ..now someday or the other others who r equally popular will definitely outstream him given his limited work let's assume 10 people stream MJ,Queen daily but definitely MJ will generate less plays although both MJ,Queen are equally popular with those 10(just an assumption for the sake of an example) ..but how is that Equivalent to saying he is not as relevant when he is still leading in youtube (let's not talk about his unofficial dance videos ) and in parts like Middle East, China,India he is most popular legacy artist on local platforms ?? Are Spotify streams alone are measure of popularity? MJ despite all those allegations ,media slander is still generating such numbers without any big push or massive discography and no way one can say he is not as relevant...As a performer people stil study his performances throughout
There is a difference between saying MJ's music isn't as relevant as Queen's on Spotify and MJ isn't as relevant as Queen.. Ofcourse right now Queen's music is more popular than MJ's especially since that film..
But MJ is more than just a music artist he was a great dancer and he continues to inspire many as a performer...how many dance shows talent shows u hv people doing MJ style? Just check on YouTube Baba Jackson he literally hv millions of views and MJ is his inspiration... infact almost every bollywood star today follow MJ dance and many non English people who are familiar with only dance (not into English music) may hv never bothered to install Spotify yet liking MJ ...Apart from just music artist MJ was a Video artist let's not forget that and it's not necessary they play him on Spotify(I'm an Indian and for year I hv been watching only on YouTube Spotify came only now )...so there is massive difference between these two things as i mentioned and as an impact MJ is still as relevant as Queen are but slightly in a different way .
What rubbish you say about MJ as a dancer! I’m a semi pro dancer and myself and many pro dancers would not sight MJ as a dancer to inspire too , he would way way down in pecking oRder of dancers. After all all he does is a moonwalk and a few twist turns, none of which are very difficult. I’d say stick to music, at least he can sing.
I've never entered into any of these relevance arguments, it's all just point scoring between fans of each artist. To me, Michael Jackson was and is extremely relevant and influential and IMO always will be. I couldn't care less about some pointless point scoring argument about who is more relevant etc, as it just doesn't matter to me.
Again, it is not the fact that his discography is smaller than Queens or The Beatles, that he is behind them, it is the fact that they are more popular on Spotify. Take Post Malone he only has 65 tracks on Spotify, yet he is the 3rd most streamed artist ever on the Platform. It's totally about popularity and nothing to with discography volume.
I'm not being derogatory here but Queens 10 most popular tracks, have streamed more than Jacksons entire catalogue on Spotify. So, it does not matter that they have around 300 more tracks, as they do not actually need the extra tracks to out perform him and to give some perspective those extra 300 tracks only account for 170m streams.
It's their more popular tracks like Bohemian Rhapsody, Don't Stop Me Now, Another One Bites The Dust, Under Pressure etc and their insane popularity, that puts them ahead, not their 300 extra tracks. Their top 311 tracks (the amount of tracks Jacksons has on Spotify) accounts for 10.9B compared to his 6.4B.
See this whole relevance argument wasn't with u to begin with ..that guy keep spreading hatred on MJ almost in every thread with multiple accounts ..it seems he can't stand comparisons or arguments when it comes to MJ.... Being a Queen fan he doesn't stick to Queen &MJ he keeps shuffling better Queen and Beatles to counter MJ arguments which is a sign of pure hatred ,..Just check the above comments nobody was comparing MJ with Queen... Somebody was just mentioning MJ to give an example and he got irked and started downplaying MJ
Queens Bohemian Rhapsody and Don’t stop me now voted Britain’s favourite songs.
http://www.queenonline.com/news/bohemian-rhapsody-voted-uks-favourite-song
Here is a more extensive breakdown of the results;
https://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/sony-europe/pressreleases/musical-map-of-the-uk-reveals-the-listening-habits-of-the-nation-3046363?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=Alert&utm_content=pressrelease
Have to admit, while I'd expect Queens BR to come out on top, the demographic seems quite skewed to older participants, as only 5 songs come from the last 30 years and only 3 from the 21st century.
Yikes...I only like to listen to one song on that list and not even that regularly! I'm clearly not old or from the UK haha. Honestly, most of those songs are the overplayed, cliche songs that I would be fine never hearing again at this point in my life.
I am from the UK and 47, so oldish, but even then, 16 of the 25 songs were either written before I was born or I was too young to know them on release!
Stairway to Heaven is the only song on the list that I can recall actually picking out to play and same as you, it's not very often, even although Led Zeppelin are my favourite band! A lot of the others tracks I hear on radio or in a pub etc, but I can't say I choose to play any of them.
One song I thought would be a certainty to be on the list is Wonderwall by Oasis, quite surprised to see it not making the Top 25.
the same certifications that say that frank sinatra has only sold 27 million albums in the us and that the beatles only sold 5 million records in japan?
Queen Greatest Hits 1981 Release
USA Certification - December 2020 9 x Platinum
Chartmasters Total - 4,270,000
Track Listing
Another One Bites The Dust
Bohemian Rhapsody
Crazy Little Thing Called Love
Killer Queen
Fat Bottomed Girls
Bicycle Race
Under Pressure
We Will Rock You
We Are The Champions
Flash
Somebody To Love
You're My Best Friend
Keep Yourself Alive
Play The Game
Queen Greatest Hits 1992 Release
USA Certification - December 2020 5 x Platinum
Chartmasters Total - 7,470,000
Track Listing
We Will Rock You
We Are The Champions
Another One Bites The Dust
Killer Queen
Somebody To Love
Fat Bottomed Girls
Bicycle Race
You're My Best Friend
Crazy Little Thing Called Love
Now I'm Here
Play The Game
Seven Seas Of Rhye
Body Language
Save Me
Don't Stop Me Now
Good Old Fashioned Loverboy
I Want To Break Free
Queen Greatest Hits (We Will Rock You Edition) 2004 Release
USA Certification - Unknown
Chartmasters Total - Unknown
Track Listing
Bohemian Rhapsody
Another One Bites The Dust
Killer Queen
Fat Bottomed Girls
Bicycle Race
You're My Best Friend
Don't Stop Me Now
Save Me
Crazy Little Thing Called Love
Somebody To Love
Now I'm Here
Good Old Fashioned Loverboy
Play The Game
Flash
Seven Seas Of Rhye
We Will Rock You
We Are The Champions
Bonus Tracks
I'm In Love With My Car
Under Pressure (Live)
Tie Your Mother down (Live)
Classic Queen
USA Certification - November 2002 3 x Platinum
Chartmasters Total - 3,700,000
Track Listing
A Kind Of Magic
Bohemian Rhapsody
Under Pressure
Hammer To Fall
Stone Cold Crazy
One Year Of Love
Radio GaGa
I'm Going Slightly Mad
I Want It All
Tie Your Mother down
The Miracle
These Are The Days Of Our Lives
One Vision
Keep Yourself Alive
Headlong
Who Wants To Live Forever
The Show Must Go On
The Platinum Collection
Release Date - 18th September 2001
USA Certification - May 2005 Platinum
Chartmasters Total - 1,550,000 In Total
The Platinum Collection - Vol 1-3
Release Date - 24th September 2002
USA Certification - February 2012 2 x Platinum
Chartmasters Total - 1,550,000 In Total
The new RIAA certifications are great but there are still unanswered questions! The sales for the We Will Rock You Edition of Greatest Hits are allocated to which release?
The Platinum Collection is strange as well, it's allocated 2 different release dates and so has 3 platinum awards in total. Does this allow for the multiple disc format in the USA or not? Has The Platinum Collection sold 3 Million copies (9 Million discs) in total or is MJDangerous correct. Lots of information to find out.
Would love to hear form Hernan, Ed Wood and MJD on these new RIAA certifications, you've all been quiet on this thread for a while!
also made in heaven riaa gold certification but 350.000 sales according to chartmasters
queen online store says made in heaven sold 20 million. that's number too exaggeration
