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That’s what the figures were at before the glitch. Is that all of it’s pure sales or are there more to come
Plastic Hearts has 3.5b streams on Spotify, while ESV has 3.1b streams. It's not a huge difference. Plus, ESV has more views on YouTube (PH - 764.2m, ESV- 1.6b), and on YouTube Music, ESV is also ahead, with Flowers alone reaching 1.6b streams. The bug/glitch has reduced her EAS, just like it did before but we got it fixed back then. It never increased her sales.
But Endless Summer Vacation isn't getting the majority of its streams from Vietnam or any other Asian countries. I can guarantee that this decrease in her sales is because of a bug, it happened before and we got it fixed last time too.
Do they just do album streams or do they also do orphan streams for the EAS
And yet, her cities with the most listeners:
1 Indonesia Jakarta - 1,504,258
2 Brazil Sao Paulo - 734,352
3 Australia Sydney - 696,195
That's 3% of her global listeners in Jakarta alone.
What's strange with ESV EAS from streams being a bit lower than PH when its streams are a bit lower? Her artist ratio is at 1.55766, a pretty normal ratio for a US pop artist ; and with the 1 to 1,500 conversion to albums, one can easily understand that her valid EAS will be around Spotify streams /1000 + YouTube EAS. That's in line with the current number.
Doesn’t mean they are solely listening to ESV plus ESV is doing better on other platforms than PH
How do they find out from certificates how much has sold physically/digitally and how do they take away streams from Spotify and YouTube
1)Glad you brought it up. It's because currently one of her songs, Angels like you is viral in Indonesia, but that track isn't even part of Endless Summer Vacation. I fear that's why her figures got recalibrated with ESV becoming a scapegoat. Or it's the same bug as before.
2)What's strange about ESV being lower than PH is that ESV is bigger than Plastic Hearts on other platforms by a huge margin.
On YouTube ESV has 1.6b views while PH has just over 700m.
On YouTube Music, Flowers alone has 1.6b streams.
On Apple Music again Flowers spent 168 days at #1, and on its 638th day it's still rising on the chart.
why you do guys only decrease Miley Cyrus Endless Summer Vacation sales from 4.6 million sales to 3.6M ? i have the pictures something feel not normal about this
Hi ChartMasters, this is the admin from Team Miley China. As many Miley fans show their concerns in the comments, we kindly ask if you could fix ESV numbers. Our team have done the calculations based on your formula, and it demonstrates that the current ESV numbers are wrong. Let’s talk in mathematics - we compare ESV with PF2 as an example.
According to your formula Streaming units (EAS) for Endless Summer Vacation just from Spotify and YouTube should be:
[{Spotify * (649/406)} / 1500] + [(YouTube * 1.1) / 6750]
= [{ 3,140,500,426 * 1.59 } / 1500 ] + [(1,544,154,000 *1.1)/ 6750]
= [4,993,395,677 / 1500 ]+ [1,698,569,400/ 6750]
= 3,328,930 + 251,640
= 3,580,570 streaming units meaning 3.5m
Current numbers on chartmaster = 3,388,000 meaning 3.3m
Difference = -200,570 meaning - 200k
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Streaming units (EAS) : using the same equation
= [{1,621,940,763 * 1.59 } / 1500 ] + [(196,700,000 * 1.1)/ 6750]
= 1,719,257.2 + 32,054.81
= 1,751,312 streaming units meaning 1.7m
Current numbers on chart masters = 2,526,000 meaning 2.5m
Difference = +774,688
CONCLUSION- The glitch has removed 1.2 million streaming units from Endless Summer Vacation, which originated from platforms like Genie, AWA, Anghami, QQ and Boomplay and others. It has also reduced the base number, excluding these platforms, from 3.5m to 3.3m streaming units.
The correct EAS streaming units for ESV is 4.7m the figure which displayed prior to the glitch. Adding pure sales it brings the total of 5m.
As we demonstrated, the current ESV numbers need to be fixed. Can you please investigate this issue? Many thanks!
Hi Speechlesslove!
I appreciate that you talk with numbers, that's why I'll take the time to answer in opposition to the most recent messages.
The issue here is that you are using the old, flat ratio of Spotify * 649/406, which was in place several years ago, when Spotify had 406 million users (up to 626m as of last quarter). Since then, the Artist Ratio was introduced. It's an algorithm which scans artists' results in geographical areas (thanks to the top 50 cities and charts showings), and apply the Spotify market share of each individual country to the artist results in them.
You pick Nicki Minaj as a comparison, while an US rapper has more streams outside of Spotify relatively speaking, mostly due to the lower share of Spotify in the US than in most parts of the world, and also the local black culture which favors Apple Music over Spotify. Our algorithm evidenced exactly that, artists ratios:
- Karol G: 1.35153 (weak ratio as Spotify dominates strongly in Latin America)
- Dido: 1.47015 (below 1.5 because she is strong in Europe and weaker in the US and Asia, where Spotify is less dominant)
- Miley Cyrus: 1.55766 (a typical ballpark for international pop stars which are relatively weaker in the US, plus Miley is slightly below the pack in Asia)
- Britney Spears: 1.57001 (similar to Miley with a similar profile, but with a better showing in Asia)
- Taylor Swift: 1.69261 (massive figures in Asia, including on markets with strong local platforms, and obviously stronger in the US than Europe)
- Beyoncé: 1.72641 (we reach Apple Music-favored artists, but with a global reach still)
- Nicki Minaj: 1.79834 (Apple Music-favored too, but with a weaker global impact than Beyoncé, so the US share impacts stronger the overall total)
As for your conclusion, sorry but it doesn't make sense at all. The last Miley manual audit came before ESV, so nothing erased its Genie, AWA, etc. streams, they were never retrieved. Same for YouTube. New albums are automatically added using the last album's Spotify streams to EAS ratio from a manually checked album, as naturally artists' proven history is more reliable than a default value. You then add 1.2m EAS out of nowhere, which are 1.8 billion streams, for platforms where the song has very modest numbers (for accuracy's sake I checked Genie - 2.559m, AWA - 107k, or Boomberg, where her discography totals 4.1m).
May I add that it's not intellectually honest to cherry pick the album with the largest extrapolation (for valid reasons as previously mentioned) to try to explain that Miley is deflated. Why don't you pick Olivia Rodrigo's Guts, which has a streaming EAS at below 4.5m (when you require 4.7m for ESV), with nearly a billion more streams than ESV? If only fans would show more 'concerns' for accuracy instead of their wishful thinking!
