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Rap is nothing but 00s' rock music! It's disappointing when a rock legend can't see it 😉
I agree with you, but i don't think Eminem's album is as great globally as that of Robbie Williams, who has climbed world heights in 20 countries and sold much more, especially in Europe, Oceania and latin America, getting 5 diamond records, but i don't disput the high success and popularity of Eminem's albums
What lmao? Not to drag on Robbie Williams, but he's clearly not as globally successful as Eminem. Per their last updates, they've sold about the same in original album format outside of the US, with RW getting the slight edge (61m vs 58m albums). Once you add in digital and streaming platforms (on which Eminem crushes RW with ease), then it's clear who the real winner is. Even in his native land of the UK, I doubt Robin Williams is more popular or successful than Eminem.
lol I always thought Robin Williams was an American, although he did like doing a Scottish accent.
As for Robbie Williams, Robbie has quite a healthy lead over Marshall, even more so if you were to include his work with Take That. In fact, he must be one of the most successful artists ever in the UK, all things considered, with probably only members of The Beatles or Queen matching or beating his total sales.
Do you rely on global success by watching digital sales and streaming? this means that any singer in the world has made more global success than RW on this point of view, but it is not so, this comparison you are making is acceptable in the scale of the 2010s, but it does not seem to me that Eminem and RW are part of the last decade, tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think your reasoning is right
You're not funny. That was clearly a typo. And no, obviously RW's work with Take That is not included. Unless "Take That" is his middle name, that would make zero sense. Not even sure why you brought it up. You're the fish-and-chips expert so I'll leave the commercial success bit up to you, however Eminem and his material is definitely more popular than RW in the UK now, and has been for maybe a decade or so.
What is your problem? I know it's a typo, it was just a funny little aside about it.
You didn't say his material is currently more popular and has been for a while, originally. You said, "Even in his native land of the UK, I doubt Robin Williams is more popular or successful than Eminem", which is not true. You should do some research, rather than just posting what you think is true.
Williams doesn't need Take That to be ahead of Eminem and ahead by a considerable margin. Yes, Eminem is more popular nowadays but he is not more successful in the UK overall and maybe if you could actually read and digest what I wrote, instead of getting all angry and crazy, you'd see I stated he has the lead over Eminem, without Take That.
With regards to me bringing up Take That, I was merely intimating, that if you include everything he's been involved in, it makes him one of the highest selling and most successful artists ever, in the UK. It wasn't point scoring or one up man ship, I was just providing a wee bit more info about him, to give some perspective, of just how successful he has been in the UK, since you are clearly so unaware.
I remind you that in the native land you were talking about Robbie Williams got a Brit icon awards, a uk music hall of fame, a Brit for outstanding contribution to music and the Brit awards for the best song of the last 25 years, he entered with four albums in the top 60 best-selling UK albums in history, her single Angels is ranked 80 in the top 100 best-selling songs in history in the UK, her 125,000-person knebworth gig sets the concert record largest outdoor in the UK, with 12 albums RW has placed 12 times number one in the UK, surpassing Elvis Presley, RW is the fourth best-selling artist in history in the UK with 31 million sales, up from 15m by Eminem, i think you haven't been well informed about RW's success in the UK, so before you talk and say the things you think, get informed, thank you
Dag, both he and Elvis have 13 #1 albums each, in the UK.
Oh and just a little note, to help you with your English, which is great, considering it is not your first language but it should be "his single..." and "his 125,000...", not "her". as that would make him a lady lol
are you an English teacher? I think it's easier for someone who speaks their own language, I'm Italian so there may be some mistakes 🤣
No problem here lol. I know it was meant to be a joke, it was just really lame. English is hard. I think there's been a miscommunication here: I said that I'll take your word for it on who's the more successful act in the UK since you're the expert and are Bri'ish (hence the fish-and-chips joke). I am aware that there is a solid gap in raw albums sold between the two, but I assumed that the streaming difference would have closed it up. It hasn't yet, but it will eventually. Where is the angry and crazy part of my comment?
Neither of them are dead, they both released albums in the 10s. Eminem's were just far more successful worldwide. The point of this website is to watch global success by evaluating the different formats that music is consumed on and weighing their value appropriately. That includes digitals and streams, so yes. And no it doesn't mean that ANY singer is more global than RW, it just means Eminem specifically is in this case.
As you can see from 2009 onwards Robbie Williams' albums are noticeably better in Latin America and Europe, so don't to come to say that sooner or later RW will be bridged by Eminem, in my opinion you are underestimating RW's success a lot, despite everything, his latest Christmas album managed to sell 500,000 copies without the support of the United States, despite the fact that the sales of the albums, in general, are still very down today.
I really am not trying to discredit his success. I simply don't think he's more global than Eminem. If anything, you're the one trying to discredit Eminem's success by bringing up how RW is much more impressive than him.
