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Album sales. I wish there is an official website which gives updated album sales figures of artists. This site updates album sales of some artists and completely ignores others. Requested many times to update Eminem's album sales and they don't even care.
There are two ways of viewing music sales:
- Look at certifications and sum up. But sales can be below certifications, because units shipped can also lead to units not being sold. But in many cases, sales are above actual sales.
- Try to find out the most likely sales by approximation.
If you claimed Eminem allegedly sold more than 250M albums, then you should at least name an independent source. Eminem's management or any fan clubs aren't serious sources, because they naturally overestimate their respective artists' successes. (See, Elvis' estate still claim he's sold more than 2 billion records, which is absolutely nonsense.)
This site here tries to list all the sales of each release in several countries of a respective artist. And if they only come to 212M EAS by Eminem at the moment, then it is their analysis. And you cannot change their results, even if you prove to be his biggest fan.
And if you want to have Eminem's sales updated, let me tell you:
Sure, you can vote for him to be updated. See the respective list. But you shouldn't expect the whole ChartMasters to prefer certain artists like Eminem. He is one in a zillion releasing artists and certainly not the center of the world. This site here is permanently busy with researching sales. And there are so many to be analyzed artists other than Eminem.
Be fair to every artist. If you can't update the real album sales figures, don't make the list. It's sad that an artist doesn't get what he deserves. Eminem's last album was in top 10 sales worldwide, also one of the most streamed one. The sales number for that album in this site doesn't justify that. Also his classic albums also sold more. And why they are not updating daily and showing it is daily list. At least update monthly, i have seen no change in album sales figures after many months.
Also i have seen comments which say they added 2 M sales for TES album and then removed immediately. This is the another proof that wrong info is given.
Apparently you didn't understand what I wrote:
Eminem is not the center of ChartMasters and certainly not the world!
Therefore, his physical sales are not updated weekly or monthly, as you've requested. Just look outside your fan box to other analyzed artists. There you'll find musicians whose physical sales were updated years ago. Why? Because it's a lot of work to determine them. Furthermore, within your music horizon – about whose size I don't want to speculate here – you probably haven't noticed that there are still so many artists (e.g. from the 20th century... heard about it?) who are still waiting for a complete analysis.
Then I asked you for reliable sources for your claims that Eminem sold so much more... nothing mentioned!
For the future, a little advice:
First read, then understand and finally draw conclusions from comments before replying.
It's beneath me to engage in a discussion with someone who has never heard of equivalent album sales by Paul McCartney (425M Beatles, 113M solo), Phil Collins (109M Genesis, 153M solo), Madonna (249M), etc. There is nothing more to say about your post.
At 6-th place is "The Marshall Matters LP 2" from 2013 . Sorry , I made a mistake .
I wrote, "Be fair to every artist", not just Eminem. If you cannot update weekly or monthly, why you label the list as daily update. All you and your team do is downvote comments which say against your hypocrisy. I wish your team spend more time for researching and giving genuine data than arguing with fans and downvoting their comments. Your statement regarding Eminem in your last comment clearly shows you people not interested to update his album sales. And what about removing the album sales numbers who already added to TES. People will won't value your list because these are proofs that it is just wrong info.
Firstly, this is not my site, because I'm not part of the ChartMasters team. I'm just a user with a clear opinion.
Secondly, ChartMasters is fair to all artists. Every artist's streaming sales are updated as good as daily, while his physical sales are updated whenever his complete sales are re-analyzed. You should know the difference in handling between streaming and physical sales, when you read within this site, but especially, when you're up commenting here while infamously accusing the runners of being biased towards certain artists.
Every artist here is treated equally.
but who listens Madonna and Phil Collins theese days? Also Paul Mccartney is not a solo artist from his success
I'm sure you could exclude Lennon tracks and he'd still be more successful than Eminem. Should we also exclude all Eminem tracks he didn't write, perform, produce and complete, solely on his own? Obviously no, so why should it matter where McCartney's success is derived from.
And millions of people quite clearly still listen to Madonna and Collins.
This comment itself is the proof that this site is biased towards some artists. I hope people won't take their list seriously anymore. Eminem's actual album sales was 220 plus millions as confirmed by Dre two years ago. Still there is no updates, just unfair. They won't since from the above comment their respect towards eminem is evident.
What is supposed to be biased about Martin's comment if he rightly claims that artists who have been successful for decades are still being heard?
And you're not seriously saying that Dr. Dre is a reliable source for Eminem's actual sales? On the one hand, Dr. Dre is Eminem's good buddy and, on the other hand, he is also involved in Eminem's releases as co-writer, -performer and -producer and therefore, Dr. Dre is part of Eminem's success. So of course Dr. Dre – like Eminem's management, fan clubs and the artist himself – will always make Eminem's success look greater than it actually is.
Apart from that I have already realized that it is pointless to argue with a deluded fan like you. I don't mind if you believe whatever you want, even that Eminem sold 600M albums if that makes you happy. But fanboy outpourings certainly have nothing to do with a realistic assessment/debate.
Reality is you people are bunch of fanboys of some artists. No people will believe your list as it is evident from all your comments the favourism you show. Dr Dre is reliable than Chartmasters since he has the right sources. Your list is nowhere near reality since firstly you are not updating daily, secondly you are removing already updated sales, thirdly regularly updating data for only some artists. Yes it is pointless to argue with a deluded fan but that deluded fan is you. Eminem is still a top selling artist but no change in Chartmasters data and their team speaking for their favourite artists against Eminem and Dre.