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Phil Collins IS much bigger than Genesis, when we speak about records sales, i think.
I think both Ozzy and Sabbath needs to be studied before we can say that for sure.
Some others to throw in are Vangelis and Demis Roussos, both from Aphrodite's Child as well as Justin Timberlake, Beyoncé, Dr. Dre and Gloria Estefan (NSYNC, Destiny's Child, N.W.A, Miami Sound Machine) I'd also put a bet that Camila Cabello should be ahead of Fifth Harmony by now if not very soon.
PeterGabriel vs Genesis? Gabriel's ”So” album was massive hit. ”Us" was big, as well. it would be interesting to compare CSPC's for Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins and Gemesis, imo.
Why not just chuck in Mike and The Mechanics, Brand X, Steve Hacketts solo work, GTR and Tony Banks solo work etc, as well lol
Well, If we already have CSPC for Ihe Beatles, Paul McCartney and John Lennon (”Wings” are missing?). Or CSPC forJackson 5, Janet Jackson and Michael Jackson - why then don't have CSPC for Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins and Genesis 🙂
It cannot be denied Peter Gabriel, Phil Collins and Genesis was huge commercial stars. All of them.
On the other side, Mike and The Mechanics, Brand X, Steve Hackett, Tony Banks......wouldn't all have a one million CSPC together,
Just to add......I know it's impossible to do CSPC for every artist. And, ChartMasters team are allready doing a great work, really.
I obviously was not being serious about studying them all but Mike and the Mechanics have actually been reasonably successful. They would easily top 1m on their own, in fact, their first two studio albums would each pass 1m.
They've also a had quite a few decently selling singles, such as;
Silent Running: #6 US, #8 Canada & Germany
All I Need Is A Miracle: #5 US, #8 Australia, #10 Canada
The Living Years: #1 Australia, Canada, Ireland & US, #2 UK
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robbie williams take that
george michael wham!
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beyonce destiny’s child
bobby brown new edition
dian ross potentially more than supremes but i dont know for sure
I think it's would be a very good idea to do the same work for Peter Gabriel and, first, for Genesis...
We' read here that Phil Collins and Paul McCartney are the only artists who are above the 100 million sales for their work with their solo career AND for their main band. For Macca, the work has been done, and well done, IMO.
But for Phil Collins, we just have a part of the picture... Hope for Genesis CSCP in the next future... Fingers crossed !
Genesis is top 10 on the requests list. You can vote for them here.
https://chartmasters.org/cspc-voting-use-your-voice/
"But for Phil Collins, we just have a part of the picture"
I couldn't agree more, basically half of his career hasn't been studied, which is a little strange considering we have Sting/The Police, Black Sabbath/Ozzy, Neil Young/CSNY, Paul Simon/Simon & Garfunkel...etc.
His total with Genesis would be around 255 million EAS, i.e. more than Madonna. I think he deserves a complete study of his career.
So, do I gather correctly that the top 3 persons to sell the most albums in Europe are:
1 Paul McCartney
2 Phil Collins
3 John Lennon
Or have any of the Queen guys maybe sneaked more than 10 million album sales in Europe?
