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 Kris
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Have her songs where she is the featured artist been updated to the new features formula? I know she has some massive songs as a feature artist (Moves like Jagger comes to mind with 20M digital sales). Because with the new formula she will only receive 50% of those sales, which means her total CSPC will probably drop even after a sales update.


   
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(@emerzonne)
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could they at least put Mi Reflejo on Christina Aguilera since they don't count it as a studio album


   
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actually no, the problem here is that most numbers are very dated. the last update was from 2017 but a lot of these numbers are 2013-14 (even older for her early albums).
Examples: multiple sources state Stripped sold 12m pure in the 2000s alone, the 525k of pure sales from Lotus is from early 2013, before the album re-entered billboard, went back and forth on itunes and sold 600k pure in early 2014 alone. in addition to not having pure sales for Liberation, having sold-out vinyls for Stripped (took 24 hours, twice), Lotus and bionic all of which sold out within a few hours-days.


   
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Stripped is listed as 4.6 million in the U.S. in this article when it's at 5 million now. That alone there is almost half a million album units. Back to Basics, Bionic, and Lotus also have outdated numbers. I get you'll say that you make up for these numbers through your daily updated streams count but it's really not farfetched to say that her catalog has grown in the millions worldwide (albums + singles) since these 2017 numbers were posted.


   
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Hi emerson,

If she sold that much, why do you need to make up numbers? This is the real statement of Sony Music: "she has sold more than 43 million records worldwide".

Records, not albums.

Numbers from the article: 33.5 million albums and 9.9 million physical singles, which are 43.4 million records.

Still, feel free to repeat lies a thousand times, but you can't expect educated people to believe it.


   
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Hi Lurker,

If you are still not able to understand the difference between pure sales and equivalent album sales with songs' downloads and streams, I would strongly recommend you to read in full both the article and the CSPC introduction that is linked before commenting on data.

When nowadays there are hit albums which sell less than 10k copies in a year, I don't know how you can believe that Aguilera's legacy catalog is selling in the millions lately.


   
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(@emerzonne)
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I just find it strange that you only account for 16 countries in her debut when it was a global smash and albums with small performances like Blackout have sales accounted for in 43 countries.


   
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(@emerzonne)
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if you were fair we wouldn't be here questioning you, countless threads are made showing how you inflate some artists and diminish others.


   
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Stop acting and sounding like a petulant child. Their is no hidden agenda at work here, we do not inflate or diminish acts. If an artist is higher or lower than they should be, it is purely by mistake.

Many of the earlier articles only show figures from a select set of countries but all countries are included in their total estimation. Again, no one has an agenda against Aguilera, if you bothered to check other articles from around 2016 and 2017, such as Led Zeppelin, U2 and The Beatles you would see they also only have a select few countries shown.

In my experience, the main reason people question figures here, is that they do not understand how the figures are actually derived and what they actually represent. On top of this, a lot of the PR chucked out by record companies etc about sales, is often very misleading and ambiguous, making the public think something, that isn't really true.


   
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(@marco)
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this doesn't change what Lurker pointed out in the slightest though


   
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(@emerzonne)
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her data is fake, certifications don't match the data here and a single diamond has only 3M on her Singles page.


   
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(@emerzonne)
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so fighters, totally ignore the label that owns all profits from every album sold and we will now trust only one estimation site


   
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What Lurker pointed out, was his complete lack of knowledge or understanding of the figures on here and also the RIAAs figures.
A 5m RIAA album certification, does not mean it has sold 5m physical copies, track streams, downloads etc are also included, for many years now.

When the article was published Stripped was at 12.55m, as of today it is at 13.30m, rising by 750k. Some of that 750k rise has come from US streams of tracks from the album, which have also gone towards it's 5m RIAA certification.

The reality is, actual physical sales of the album in the US, will not have risen by very much at all, since the analysis in 2017. You'd probably find that nearly all of the units that pushed it over the 5m certification mark, were gained from streams and not physical sales and at this moment in time, it has probably not moved that much more than the 4.6m given in 2017.


   
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Hi 🙂
I know you don't think her sales have evolved enough to update her totals but could you just update Liberation's Studio Albums sales?
Liberation must be around 150k
Thank you very much!


   
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(@emerzonne)
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in 2018 he already had over 300 thousand copies


   
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