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Even if we don't get an update would you consider doing country breakdown for old updates?
It's a new feature you added in like 2017, so some old artists like celine don't have it.
I was saying the same thing because I know for a fact Celine hasn't sold more records in Asia than Mariah. Because Mariah has sold millions of records in Asia and a lot of the countries didn't have a tracking system for all of the albums she sold which is why there is no definite number on many records she's sold in Asia except Japan.
No, Mariah has outsold she and Madonna in Asia as whole but in terms of the best-selling it would be:
1.Mariah
2.Celine
3.Madonna
4.Whitney
My favorite Celine Dion song was always "Think Twice". As a European it baffles me that it flopped in many other parts of the world. As a UK #1 it barely made it to the Billboard Hot 100.
Obviously it was included on the European version of "All the Way a Decade of Songs", but not the US (and most other) versions.
Today, on Spotify the song is NOT included on that album (not in my region anyway) - I suppose that could hurt it's streaming results a bit. Then again neither is "All By Myself", and that one's doing allright 😉
Top Celine Dion songs on Spotify as of 25/1/2021:
1 My Heart Will Go On - 318.9M
2 Because You Loved Me - 206.8M
3 It's All Coming Back To Me Now - 134.4M
4 The Power of Love - 132.1M
5 Ashes - 94.3M
6 Happy Xmas - 86.5M
7 All By Myself - 81.9M
8 Beauty & the Beast - 80.0M
9 I'm Alive - 72.5M
10 The Prayer - 65.5M
11 That's the Way It is - 61.8M
12 Pour que tu m'aimes encore - 58.6M
13 A New Day Has Come - 43.8M
14 Immortality - 39.2M
15 Think Twice - 38.9M
16 How Does a Moment Last Forever - 37.7M
My 2nd fave song by her is "The Power of Love" btw, also from "The Colour of My Love", so in my book she peaked in 1993 😉
It's been around 5 years since Celine Dion has been updated. Encore Un Soir sales needs an update and she has a new album out already in 2019.
She has very few global hit, but many songs that were hits on different continents.
Her only global hits are the Titanic song, All by Myself, Its coming back to me now and Because you loved me.
the power of love/tell him/Im ur angel/Beauty and the beast/That's the way it is/Im alive
Her early french catalogue doing 3.5M seems rather excessive and I cant find these numbers being broken down until the final chart. Where do they come from?
Let’s face it, she neither streams or sells fantastically well and hasn’t for many, many years now. So, why would we specifically concentrate on and update an artist that in all likelihood, has not really added a great amount to her 2016 total.
On top of that, there are many other artists who have also not been updated since 2016, such as The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, U2, Fleetwood Mac, Bon Jovi, ABBA etc and many from subsequent years, that have added more to their totals, in a shorter space of time.
We get you are fans and mainly care about seeing her updated but please have some perspective and appreciate, that it’s not some personal slight against her. It’s not that we do not care, it’s just that we feel there are other artists who take priority over her, due to them having added more to their old totals.
You sound rude. I am just asking kindly. Encore Un Soir has sold more than 800k now and has released a new English studio album in 2019 that sold 500k in less than two months. It may be little to you, but a pretty update would make us happy.
I'd say blunt and honest, rather than rude and given that it was suggested that we do not (specifically) care about Celine Dions numbers, can you blame me?
No consideration was given to the fact that numerous artists (from 2016) have not been updated either, yet somehow it's just Celines numbers we do not care about!
The power of love wasn't a hit in Europe for her. It peaked at 25. The original one was a big hit instead.
She had many global hits. She is an adult contemporary singer and her fans tends to purchase albums rather than singles. Which is why her singles charts were somewhat poor. The Power of Love was a big hit and that song was the reason why the album sold like hot cakes in Europe. Somebody like Backstreet Boys or Britney Spears might have far better singles chart runs in Europe compared to her, doesnt mean they are in anyway "much" bigger than her in that region. Honestly you cant sell that many albums globally without having multiple hit singles. Whose gonna buy your album if none of your singles are strong?
I agree with Martin. Celine is my favorite artist ever but she barely added what, 4 million tops since 2016? I would rather see new legends being studied, new big artists being studied or older artists that are streaming like hotcakes studied.
Acts such as Led Zeppelin, Metallica, AC/DC, Pink Floyd etc, clearly prove that hit singles, let alone multiple hit singles, are not a prerequisite for huge album sales.
Thank you Pat. It just grates on us, that some fans have this perception that we are anti their favourite artist and call us out as such, just because their favourite has not been updated, since their original analysis.
They fail to appreciate or more likely care (unlike yourself), that other acts, who have potentially added more to their totals, have also not been updated. Perversely, it almost always seems to be fans of female acts, that level these accusations at us.
On top of all that, as MJD has stated many times, it is an extremely arduous process, that takes as long as a new study, especially for earlier studied artists (like Celine). It not only requires updating their figures but completely rewriting and restructuring the original multiple page format, into the new one page format.
Anyway, thanks again for your words and sentiments.
"The Power of Love was a big hit and that song was the reason why the album sold like hot cakes in Europe."
Think Twice was a much bigger hit than The Power Of Love in Europe, especially in the UK.
I'm not sure what "global hit" means but songs like That's The Way It Is or I'm Your Angel were major hits in the US and in Europe so they probably qualify as "global hits"...
Again strong single chart runs doesnt mean it is stronger than the other ones. To me Think Twice did well chart wise because people dont really know who Celine Dion was at that time. They were hesitant to buy her album therefore they purchase her single instead of her album. Her album Unison hardly sold a thing at that time. So clearly people purchase her single instead of album. By the time The Power of Love was released, she already had a couple of moderate hits such as Beauty & The Beast, Where Does My Heart Beats Now and off course Think Twice, wasnt particularly massive hits but it was kinda big that people are aware of her presence and talent. So when a big hit like The Power Of Love was released people already knew who she was and they straight away went for her album, and sure enough it was selling like hotcakes. Both Think Twice & Power of Love were actually big hits in Europe and Globally speaking, it is just that people went for different means of music consumption throughout her career.
Sorry but I've no idea what you're talking about... You seem to think that The Power Of Love was released after Think Twice ? Actually it was released in january 94 and Think Twice in october 94, i.e. when the album started selling significantly.
Oh didnt noticed your reply. Hmm yeah, I thought Think Twice was released first. That seems a bit weird. Maybe the single was indeed much bigger than The Power of Love after all in Europe
Not as simple as 1/5. You need to consider purchasing power as well. For example in 2002 the US market sold 800 million CD but the French sold 130 million CD. So that is more than 6 times not 5 times. And need to also consider that maybe the French market was even smaller proportionately compared to the US back when Deux was released.
"Purchasing power" ? Do you think the UK has more "purchasing power" than France because they have a bigger music market ?
In terms of the music industry. Yes they have bigger purchasing power. Thats what the data says. Not me. 🙄🙄🙄
