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Avril has bigger peak and more longevity, hence, Xtina edges out her? I really don't understand your logic tbh?
In US yet, worldwide no. Both have released 5 studio albums in English. Avril actually outsold Xtina each era expect for the second one.
those net-worth you've got ain't from an official source. Who can say it's 100% accurate.
The shipment figures only start this decade. TBDT can't just sold 5M ww because it's false. IFPI reported +5M copies ww, so til now, TBDT has sold at least 9M pure sales and 10M with SPS.
This is sooooo fake. Until 2015 Let Go sold 20M, UMS sold 12M, TBDT sold 9M, GL sold 3M and AL sold 900k, so i guess this is with SEA & TEA, but it's wrong 'cause those sales there are in pure.
Last time I checked the internet, Thriller sold 100 million albums, and The Beattles as well as Elvis sold a cumulative of 1 billion records when we all know none of them were true. Avril is no exception to this. There are so many fake figures out there. I personally dont think it make sense for her to sell as much as the figures u mentioned. To start with she wasnt really that big in the US and Europe. She's huge in Asia. But she debut at a time when the Asian market was collapsing, with the exception of Japan. Therefore ur figures are totally inflated.
Shipments are used for years. Your info is wrong. TBDT shipped 5M in 2007, never had another one in IFPI year-end, the singles pós Girlfriend didn't charted Very well and the album didn't appear in any year-end charts around the World after 2007 (only in US at #176 in 2008).
What do You think It managed to sell more 4M copies until now? It doesn't work that way.
Hi Zantiago!
Let's get real, these figures don't even make sense. They are ridiculously inflated. Start by checking legitimate sources, most notably annual IFPI lists!
._____. Her label said Let Go sold that. And you even said once that IFPI sales are shipment figures, now you say we can trust it. You also said MediaTraffic is not a reliable source but you make the sales according to MT.
Avril has sold 47M album pure sales. Now i see that ChartMasters is bullshit.
Hi Zantiago!
At least you are funny 😉 let's clarify some facts:
1) No, her label never stated Let Go sold 20 million pure album sales.
2) Yes, the IFPI provide shipment data which is what matters from the industry point of view. Also, ALL claims from labels use shipment figures too. To argue on the back of a supposed label claim and to disregard shipment data in the same sentence is completely contradictory.
3) No, I haven't "make the sales" of MediaTraffic, they stoled them from me, here is the difference. In the meantime, he (Freddy) also manually inflated figures of some artists (most notably Britney and Whitney) while copy / pasting my data. See why it isn't a reliable source?
4) I would have no problem stating you are right if that was the case. Facts force me to say that no, she hasn't sold 47m pure copies with her albums. Avril already did well enough to require gross inflation, don't you think?
Hi! omg such an amazing information about my favorite singer ever!.
I would lik to know if avril´s info is gonna be updated with all sales info about her new singles (Head above water, Tell me it´s over )and new album (head above water, out next february 15.).
https://web.archive.org/web/20080509083408/http://www.sonymusic.com.tw/news/news_info.php?ne_index=1244
Under My Skin sold over 100k copies in Taiwan by February 2005.BTW, wasn't club sales at 4% in US in 2002?Why you estimated Let Go sales only 7.1 million there why Soundscan number is at 7 million ?
Hi dhhd,
Same here, standard ratios are used only when no data is available. It's soundscan sales are still slightly below 7 million IIRC, it hasn't make BMG top sellers list and wasn't available for long, wasn't available at Columbia House and its certification followed closely its SS sales, all indicators which suggest tiny sales on clubs.
Media Traffic from Facebook
AVRIL LAVIGNE'S GLOBAL ALBUM SALES
'Let Go' (2002) 17 million
'Under My Skin' (2004) 9,5 million
'The Best Damn Thing' (2007) 6 million
'Goodbye Lullaby' (2011) 1,65 million
'Avril Lavigne' (2013) 700.000
Why He Give 'Under My Skin' A 9.5M Est.
Hi MJD,
Can we have an update with her last album, Head Above Water, please ?
Thanks for your work !
If am I do not wrong, “Let Go” has sold over 18ʼ000,000 pure copies until now, cause the 16ʼ220,000 is till 2004 the last update from ARISTA RECORDS. Mediatraffic give the albums over 19ʼ000,000 and put the album on their list “100 best selling/successful albums of all time”
And “Under My Skin” over 9ʼ600,000
"Far away from her" ? You're a compeletly delusional fan and that's coming from someone who loves both. Even without Xtina's features, the both of them have about the same career sales (and not every collaboration is a feauture, you should educate yourself before talking about this). However Christina still has more hits than Avril everywhere in the world including Canada.
Avril's chart history:
US: 5 top 10 hits, 1 #1 hit
UK: 7 top 10 hits
Canada: 7 top 10 hits, 2 #1 hits as a lead artist (3 in total)
Christina's chart history
US: 9 top 10 hits as a lead artist (11 in total) , 4 #1 hits as lead (5 in total)
UK: 14 top 10 hits as a lead artist (18 in total), 4 #1 hits as lead
Canada: 12 top 10 hits as a lead artist (14 in total), 4 #1 hits as lead (5 in total)
Nowadays I can't really say who's more popular music wise. They both released albums. Whereas Avril managed to chart in the top 100 with her lead single (though it fell pretty quickly), Xtina's one couldn't. However Xtina's liberation sold considerably much more than Avril's "head above water" album (and that without a top 100 hit to promote her album).
MJD your response is one dimensional. The popularity point is debatable but pretending like streaming is the only source to compare hit songs is crazy especially considering their conditions. Avril had bigger hits in the late 2000s/early 2010s, thus she may be known by younger people more often who considerably stream much more, whereas Christina had more hits in the early 2000s (typically and generally songs from that era are not streamed as much). It's an unfair comparison to begin with as the younger demographic certainly doesn't depict the overall popularity of their entire career courses. People around my age (24-30) and older will know much more Christina songs than Avril songs and that's just the way it is. Xtina had FACTUALLY more hit songs than Avril everywhere around the world.
Xtina has
11 top 10 hits and 5 #songs with 20 weeks at the billboard top 100 to her credit.
18 top 10 hits and 4 #1 songs in the UK
14 top 10 hits and 5 #1 songs in Canada
Avril has
5 top 10 hits and 1 #song at the billboard top 100
7 top 10 hits and 0 #1 songs in the UK
8 top 10 hits and 3 #1 songs in Canada
MJD already addressed the fact that Christina was perhaps more popular in the West, so listing charting positions in the Anglosphere was redundant. Avril is simply miles more popular in Asia and does better on streaming than Christina. And also most of Avrils biggest hits come from the early 2000s, such as Complicated, S8er Boi and I’m With You, so Avril is really on a level playing field on that front. You saying “but *I* know more Christina songs” isn’t exactly hard hitting evidence as Avril is proven to be more popular by factual numbers on streaming. Without features they’re sales are similar but Avril is more popular today according to the numbers.
Alex. You are acting as if US, Canada are the only market in the world. In Europe, Asia, Latin America, Avril was the bigger artist by a big margin. You point out that, her biggest hits are in late 00s, 10s. Which just went on to prove that she continue to be big at a time when the market was really2 low. And the fact that she was the biggest in Asia at a time when the market was absolutely pathetic definitely affects her sales badly. Christina was big at a time when the market was at all time peak. By the time the market went down she was already not relevant in the industry. Therefore, whatever sales sje collect it was during a time when the market was healthy. If Avril would have debut earlier, she probably would have had higher sales than Xtina.
I remember her being popular but I did not know her debut was so huge. The 3rd biggest seller for a female during the 00s.
Michael that's not true. I was trying to be modest when I only mentioned three countries. But I could go on forever. The only market where Avril is bigger than Christina in terms of hit singles is Asia, most notably in Japan. Otherwise Christina surpasses Avril everywhere around the world including the UK, Europe, US, Canada, Australia and Latin America.
Xtina has
11 top 10 hits and 5 #1 songs in the US
18 top 10 hits and 4 #1 songs in the UK
14 top 10 hits and 5 #1 songs in Canada
12 top 10 hits and 1 #1 songs in Germany
15 top 10 hits and 5 #1 songs in New Zealand
10 top 10 hits and 2 #1 songs in Austria
12 top 10 hits and 2 #1 songs in Switzerland
18 top 10 hits and 3 #1 songs in Australia
15 top 10 hits and 4 #1 songs in Ireland
Avril has
5 top 10 hits and 1 #1 song in the US
7 top 10 hits and 0 #1 songs in the UK
8 top 10 hits and 3 #1 songs in Canada
2 top 10 hits and 0 #1 songs in Germany
5 top 10 hits and 2 #1 songs in New Zealand
5 top 10 hits and 1 #1 songs in Austria
3 top 10 hits and 0 #1 songs in Switzerland
7 top 10 hits and 2 #1 songs in Australia
8 top 10 hits and 2 #1 songs in Ireland
Xtina has sold 12,740,000 physical singles and 69.950,000 digital singles worldwide (according to this site)
Avril has sold 3,510,000 physical singles and 46,160,000 digital singles worldwide (according to this site)
Avril is indeed more popular in Asia than Christina but let's not pretend like that's the world. Everywhere else (including the US, UK, Europe, Australia and Canada) Christina does have FACTUALLY much more top 10 hits and #1 hits (even if you exclude the feautures). Thus concluding to the point that the general public knows more Christina Aguilera songs than Avril Lavigne songs. This is a logical conclusion and it is based on charting measurement across the world and time, not on my opinion as you implied.
And like I said in my comment before, bigger streaming numbers are not an indication for more popularity overall considering their career span of 20 years and the fact that those streaming numbers mostly come from the younger generation (who were attracted to Avril's discography due to her worldwide #1 hit girlfriend and popularity in the late 2000s) which is amazing. However these 12 to 18 year olds certainly don't define the world population. People my age (now 25 to 30) who grew up with artists from the early 2000s typically don't contribute to big streaming or youtube views. That doesn't mean we disappeared from the world. We are just excluded from that type of measurement which is why modern streaming forces are certainly not reliable to meausure popularity across time and different generations.
charts >>>>>>>> streaming
