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Hi Gus it's me Sambuu, strawberry swing and True Love sales are very low. Even despite they're released as single. On viva la Vida era, coldplay's singles success has fallen after Viva la Vida. So Lost and Lovers are less successful as too.
nah maroon 5 are only at top 70 of all time while coldplay at 42 and inching closer to the top 40 this is all time artists and its HUGE.
I'm surprised with Everyday Life's pure sales, its unconventional sound + lack of decent promo basically turned the album into a fan-base-carried project, and well... 740k is a good number for 2019-2021 standards in my opinion! Given that Higher Power has been outperforming Orphans on the charts so far and there's a rumored collab with BTS coming, I'm pretty sure LP9 will have better numbers too. Coldplay will never reach the heights of the first seven albums again though, this is their 21st/23rd year of career after all.
Hi Sambuu! I feel like 2-4 million units is the safest bet right now, if LP9 really goes anywhere near Ghost Stories it will be a remarkable comeback!
Hi MJD
coldplays sales are super impressive, although slightly short of Taylor and Rihanna but their touring power seems a lot stronger than their SPS. Considering they’ve had 500 million tours without an extreme amount of dates. What do you think is the best sales metric to generally predict touring success?
When you say predict, do you mean trying to gauge how successful a future, as yet unplanned or announced tour would be?
Personally, I think there are too many unknown variables to be able to gauge that, such as ticket price, venues size, length/amount of dates etc and how do you define success? Amount of sold out shows, overall gross, overall attendance?
Even trying to measure the success of historical tours is problematic, as you are not measuring like for like. For instance, pretty much every Led Zeppelin tour/show in the 70s was sold out, but due to inflation, ticket prices going crazy, far longer tours, better global logistics etc they pale in comparison, in attendance and gross, to tours/shows from say the 90s. A relatively popular 90s act, could fail to sell out any tour or any show and still return a higher overall attendance and gross.
More like predict their overall touring capacity I suppose.
There are cases of artists booking too few shows or booking too small shows or not meeting demand in various markets of course. But most major artists today have had tours that showcase their capability at their peak. Rihanna’s DWT, Taylor’s reputation tour and Coldplay’s a head full of dreams tour for example. I think those three cases definitely maximised demand.
The thing is, 9 of the top 10 grossing tours ever, those by U2, Guns N Roses, The Rolling Stones (x2), Coldplay, Roger Waters, AC/DC, Metallica and Madonna, were all set when they were way past their actual peaks. Only Sheerans tour was set at his peak.
Coldplay's A head Full of Dreams tour gross 523 million with a 122 total tour dates while Taylor's Reputation 345.7 million gross covers only 53 dates. So obviously the number of shows deflates her total gross. I am not sure about Rihanna. But I believe Rihanna has a massive amounts of casual listeners and not as much as die hard fans like Taylor & Coldplay does. That is probably why she sold ridiculous amount of downloads & streaming, while not as many as Taylor or Coldplay when it comes to album sales. In my opinion die hard fans are more willing to spend on buying albums, while casual fans would just buy your digital singles or stream your music. Obviously to fill up a stadium and to charge high price ticket you needed die hard fans that are willing to pay for that. My claim on Rihanna is just a wild guess, I could be wrong.
If Taylor only tours in the anglosphere that's her problem 😉 Coldplay tour everywhere, therefore they make more money.
Uhmm not saying that one is better than the other or not. Just saying that number of dates played a role in terms of gross ticket sales. If u have more dates, you are more likely to get higher ticket sales. Not sure what u are trying to get at here.
You make it sound like if Taylor had more dates she would have made as much/more money than Coldplay which is obviously not true... Coldplay's tour was more successful because they have more global appeal.
She probably would. Because she didnt ever tour Asia except for Japan. In which she had massive following there. Anyway im not even her fan. Just saying, she toured less and her gross are less largely because of she did a minor tour compared to Coldplay. She probably would have gross more if she add more US dates and tour more in Asia & Europe. And u cant deny that.
