I'm talking update

Update

yes, but why would their updates be prioritised over acts that haven’t been studied or modern acts that have increased a lot more since their updates, especially since streaming figures are now updated daily

thanks! can you please do billie eilish or tyler, the creator next? 🙂

How many records Cardi B sold worldwide? this is difficult to comprehend.

Why do you care about that bullshit weirdo

No

Hey MJD! Do you mind doing Nicki Minaj’s page for album & song sales?

Hey Can you do a Nicki album and songs sales chart

It's definitely bigger than Queen, I'm not sure about the rest. Queen might be bigger in pure sales.

Are you guys planning an update? The sales seem very outdated/inaccurate now, considering her official global certifications have been updated significantly, especially for IOP as now the album is 4x Platinum in the US, Canada & NZ; Platinum in the UK, Denmark & Norway; Gold in France, Italy & Poland.

I'm only asking bc compared to other albums released in 2018 with similar streaming stats and same or less global certifications, the reported pure sales don't seem to match. For example, Sweetner (5.5b streams, 2018) is Platinum in the UK and chartmasters reports 115k pure sales. IOP (5b streams, 2018) is also Platinum in the UK but only 10k sales are reported here for the UK. In France both albums are gold but Sweetner has 48k sales while IOP has 1.5k sales. In NZ Sweetner is 2x Platinum with 2.5k sales while IOP is 4x Platinum with only 250 sales. In the US Sweetner is 2x Platinum (90 weeks on BB 200) with 450k sales while IOP is 4 x Platinum (222 weeks on BB 200) with 300k sales. And so on. I do hope for an update after her second album releases. But thanks.

Well, sadly, pure sales aren't a fixed % of total units, that would make our life easier! 

To use your example, this is the chart run of Sweetener on UK's pure sales chart:

08/24/18: 1-4-8-12-18-17-22-28-21-25-19-15-23-30-34-40-41-38-27-(2019)-23-26-24-34-41-44-32-19-36-67-67-76-86-92-84 (34 wks)
RE 03/11/22: 28 (35 wks)
RE 04/22/22: 64 (36 wks)
RE 05/20/22: 16-51 (38 wks)

It did 27k on its first week at #1.

Now, IOP:

04/13/18: 16-32 (2 wks)
RE 05/04/18: 95 (3 wks)
RE 03/01/19: 64 (4 wks)

In France, Sweetener:

IOP ; knowing pure sales charts starting in mid-2018:

03/01/19: 175 (1 wk)

The story is the same everywhere, IOP pure sales are not outdated, it's just that rap albums, bar some exceptions like Kendrick Lamar, sell very few pure copies nowadays.

Thanks for responding. That was actually very insightful. I’m not the biggest Cardi fan but I thought the differences were interesting. Your explanation definitely helped clear up some of the discrepancies. That said, I see that you exemplified the UK & France. Correct me if I‘m wrong but there aren’t a lot of countries that still publish pure sales, right? Most markets now combine streams and sales for albums, so your claim that most rap albums like IOP don’t sell as much in pure sales have to be based on the handful of territories where pure sales are still tracked? That still begs a lot of questions bc the story is evidently not the same everywhere.

If you look at the biggest music market that is the US and the Top Album Sales chart on Billboard both Sweetner and IOP have a very similar chart run regarding their pure sales, with the former edging out the latter only by a small margin. IOP charted for 27 weeks (first week was +100k, second week +25k) Sweetner charted for 31 weeks (first week 127k, second week pure sales weren‘t disclosed to my knowledge but the overall equivalent sales were 75k (vs Cardi 129k)). So IOP’s pure sales were at the very least on par with Sweetner's in the US. Yet chartmasters reports Sweetener with ~450k pure sales (2× Platinum as of 2023) and IOP with ~300k (4× Platinum as of 2023). That’s a massive discrepancy that’s still not comprehensible, especially considering both albums had similar pure sales chart runs and comparable streaming numbers.

And isn’t it logical to assume that pure sales in other markets where they aren’t explicitly tracked trend closer to the US than to France or the UK? Sure, Europe may lean toward the UK pattern, but don’t countries like Canada or Australia typically align more with the US? I understand it’s difficult to draw definitive conclusions about that, but assuming that most rap albums generally have weak pure sales everywhere these days feels equally questionable, especially since exceptions like IOP in the US very much prove otherwise. So wouldn’t that assumption distort estimates for said markets where pure sales aren’t tracked?