Forum
Wow. I guess the new information received has been updated here. She had some nice increase in Latin American countries and Oops are now in the million copies category. It just proves how massive she was in Latin America at her peak. Also, cant believe Baby One More Time manage to beat Millenium pure album sales. Nice.
Hi, MJD
Since she moved 1.68 million albums in Southeast Asia by April 2000, why do you estimate 1.415 million Southeast Asian sales for BOMT? OIDA was not even relased then. It released a month later, it was impossible that intital shipments boomed even a month later, and Asia was always releasing international releases much later than in US and Europe. She was massively popular in China back then, I don't think the missing 265k sales come from OIDA intital shipments, but from China
Good job on the update guys, but I wanted to point out that Records & Achievements section is very messy and has old numbers mixed with new ones.
At 31,192,000 EAS, …Baby One More Time is the second most successful album from 1999.
*should be 31,642,000*
At 17,940,000 EAS, …Baby One More Time is the most successful song from 1998.
*should be 18,640,000*
At 12,900,000 EAS, Oops!… I Did It Again is among the Top 3 most successful songs from 2000.
*sould be 14,310,000*
At 7,880,000 EAS, Toxic is among the Top 5 most successful songs from 2003.
*should be 8,560,000*
Speaking of achievements, I think it would be cool if you added some other ones like her being one of few female artists who have managed a #1 album and a #1 single in three different decades.
I'm also curious about the 1999 album that topped BOMT in CSPC? Which one is it, may I ask?
And why did all albums increase in pure sales except The Singles Collection which went down? Wasn't it at 1,060,000 before the update? The sales in Japan for example increased by 5k so shouldn't the total sales have gone up?
Thank you. Keep it up.
Hi djdj!
The album moved 1.68 million in Asia-Pacific, that's very different from Southeast Asia! It includes not only Japan but also Australia / New-Zealand 🙂
Hi but!
Thanks for noticing, it has been fixed 🙂
About TSC, I only moved to automatic formulas for each region and it appears TSC was too high for Europe, possibly due to the old formula that works well for albums until mid 00s but not for more recent records because of the collapse of several Eastern markets.
Hi,MJD
it hasn't been fixed "At 31,192,000 EAS, …Baby One More Time is the second most successful album from 1999."
Oops, I missed that one, done!
There was also someone asking which album from 1999 was ahead, it's Santana's Supernatural that should come on top.
But according to the Brtiney promo book, both BOMT and OIDA went platinum in "9" Asia-Pacific countries. Then, I search for them in the lists, Asian countries that went platinum in the lists is Japan, Korea, Indonesia, Thailand, Taiwan, Philippines, Malaysia, India, Hong Kong and Singapore. That's 10 Asian countries which both BOMT and OIDA went platinum by then. So, the "9" Asia-Pacific countries absolutely refer to Southeast Asia, which was not including Japan. I guess that "Asia-Pacific" thing in the OIDA promo book is the same, but with Chinese sales included, because there were no certification levels in China in 2000/2001, but of course they do sell in China. Maybe they even include the import sales in Vietnam, since Britney was massively popular in Vietnam.
Sony always inflate there sales by rounding up, even when they are reporting regional sales. For example, in 90s Billboard magazine reported that FIY sold over 1 million copies in Australia according to Sony. Then in 10s, it is certifed for 13xPlatinum=910k. So they always report rounding up figure as "over". in 1999 Billboard magazine report 300k Latin American sales for OT6, 1 million for RM and 2 million for LTAL according to Sony, which all seemed like rounding up figures. Then they are faking lots of IFPI European certifications for 90s albums by Celine in 00s, witch was undoubtly false since their initial IFPI European certifications were much lower. When they reported 1 million Japan sales for GHMP, maybe the real fugre was just around 900k. When they report the 500k figure for ITZ, maybe it sold 400-500k in reality.
Your supposition doesn't work. Firstly, they don't write 9 Plat countries, they say 4 Plat and 5 3xP or more for BOMT, and 4 and 5 2xP or more for Oops. Sticking to Southeast Asian countries works with none of these 4 totals. From your list, India, Taiwan and Hong Kong aren't Southeast Asian countries, so the point isn't about excluding Japan. I wouldn't pay much attention to these totals at all anyway, since numbers for both Europe and Latin America are wrong. Let's just stick to known facts / certifications, and they completely rule out 1.68m sales in Southeast Asia alone for BOMT by April 2000. Even if you use one certification ahead of the listed cert for each country, you don't reach this number!
well according to Billboard magazine the Asia-Pacific region remarks the 11 markets in Asia (Southeast Asia plus Japan, China and India)
https://books.google.com/books?hl=zh-CN&id=SA0EAAAAMBAJ&dq=asia+pacific+billboard+sales+means+southeast+asia&q=linkin+park+1.2+million#v=snippet&q=linkin%20park%201.2%20million&f=false
There were 11 national flags on it. Don't know if it was the same in the promo book. But didn't Billboard often report Southeast Asian sales as Asia-Pacific regional sales?
Hi djdj!
Well there is no reason to expect the promo book to follow Billboard, and Billboard themselves happened to change what they meant by Asia-Pacific and Southeast Asia through their articles. They used the latter way more often yet, they rarely ever spoke about Asia-Pacific sales. What's safe is that without sales from Japan / Australia we can't get even close to 1.68 million sales in Asia for BOMT.
