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You've given her nearly 30 million singles since the last update of this article. Why not put 200 million singles at once? The clowning was already embarrassing.
I'm quitting this site.
More blabla, still 0 evidence. Why don't you talk about the facts?
You claim Irreplaceable sold 160k in Oceania up to date. Let's check the facts from Australia:
YEC 2006
23 - Irreplaceable
35 - My Love (by JT)
YEC 2007
42 - Irreplaceable
61 - My Love (by JT)
Both tracks debuted in Nov 2006, both dropped out in May 2007. They were much closer in YECs of physical singles, which were already minor by then, so the gap in YECs is due to downloads. Yet...
Justin Timberlake My Love SME 2x PLATINUM 2008
Oops. Facts prove Irreplaceable was already easily eligible for 2xP 10 years ago. With 140k for My Love, Irr had already sold 170/180k by then. Since mid-2008, the track added well over 50% of sales in both the US and the UK so there is absolutely no reason to assume it hasn't done the same in Oz. We are already looking for 250k sales in Oz. It shouldn't come as a surprise for you since you speak about Rihanna, which went 2xP with Shut Up And Drive in spite of charting lower than Irr in 2007 YEC and having obviously no sale in 2006. Of course, this figure of 250k+ includes physicals in Oz, which amount for 40k as per YECs (I can prove it too if you want).
Wait, we haven't even talk about ringtones. They represented 25% of Oz digital value in 2007 against 49% for downloads, so nearly half. Even if we assume it sold RTs only in its first 2 years, that's 140 (its DLs) * 0,5 (share in value) / 2,5 (gap of price DLs vs RTs) * 1,5 (the factor for urban songs which over-perform ringtones) = 42k ringtones calculated. All in all, we are comfortably at 250k digital units in Australia alone. In NZ, the market was at 11% of Oz, so even assuming the track performed 30% weaker than there, that's still nearly 20k to date.
The only real assumption is that it added 50% since mid-2008, fact is it doubled or more its sales in the UK. Since Australia market grew way more post-2007 than both the US and the UK, it is very, very conservative to stick to that 50%, which still pushes us to 275k sales in Oceania.
Can you tell me now your educated arguments that bring you to 160k there? Or is it just a number thrown out of your mind?
then leave already and quit arguing, your obsessive hatred of Beyoncé is showing (typical Navy/Brit Army/Little Monster)
I'm leaving because of all of these lies, it's so much for me. If you want to stay here to being comfortable about all Beyoncé's lies, you're welcome, i'm not. =)
PS: Get ready Michael Jackson, Bey is coming for your head when she reach 300mi records sold by 2020 in this nonsense site despite being selling 5m records per era (and decreasing, even with using black people and other excluded niches for sell her bad stuff)
You are leaving because once confronted to your fanciful 'estimations' like 160k in Oceania, you have 0 argument to back you up. I repeat that if you want to discuss figures feel free, but your upcoming trolling / insults will be moved to trash.
MJD is far far away to be a bey stan haha. I already confronted him because of some negative coments about Beyoncé. How I had predicted Bey is very undercertified in a lot of countries. Columbia seems doesn't care to update her catalog and makes she looks sell less than she does.
It's pointless trying to explain things to Beyoncé haters. Alot of them has grounded in their minds that shes a local flop outside of America
How is her selling ability overrated? 74M EAS accumulated over 6 albums is very impressive, that's only 12M behind Rihanna and 26M behind Britney despite having 2&3 fewer albums released in much worse selling conditions. Britney's first 6 albums were released from 1999-2007 (two of which were during peak selling years) while Rihanna's first 6 albums were released from 2005-2011. Meanwhile, it took Beyoncé 13 years, a much greater difference. Had Lemonade been her 8th studio album, she'd very likely be on about 90-95M.
Exactly. Beyoncé could release albums and singles year after year and enjoyed much more her sales peek as britney and rihanna did. Probably she would be very close to Britney or outsold her.
Teca, please do leave and never post on this site. You are unwanted here. And you are wrong.
MJD, Can you post the Listen's sales breakdown? I know it is a huge catalog seller but i'm very surprised with this huge number.
Listen – 5,690,000
Its not really massively overrated. Based on the data Beyonce sells more per era and #1s than almost every late 90s, early 2000s artist. The only one who sells more per era with less #1s is Adele. Think about others with 10 plus #1s who canabalize their sales with so much output.
Also consider consider fact Beyonce has been absent from pop radio for a decade now. If she wanted more smash hits on par with Halo, she could do it.
Where can I find the pure & streaming sales combined for the singles page? Where does it show Halo selling 17 million streaming equivalent singles?
Sorry to say this but I'd put Britney and Rihanna over Beyonce as the bigger music artists. Yes Beyonce can sing and dance better than Britney and Rihanna but even Madonna outshone the Vocal Female Trinity by a huge mile.
Pure album sales
Bney: 76,380,000
Bey: 35,500,000
Rih: 33,100,000
EAS
Bney: 100,827,000
Rih: 86,846,000
Bey: 74,052,000
Beyonce may have bigger networth and more successful tours but Britney is good at it too. Rihanna may not have impressive number but she has the highest number of platinum singles and 14 #1 singles in the US Billboard Hot 100.
Beyonce gets more significant awards like Grammys but Britney and Beyonce has more impressive records.
It's not too late for me to change my opinion though since Beyonce will still release more albums in the future, same with Rihanna. As for Britney, she may sell less but she already had enough sales that will be difficult to be reach by Bey and Rih.
It's funny when someone try to put down Beyonce's impact in music just looking for album or single sales and ignoring all the other spheres involved in this haha. But keep trying, buddy. After Lemonade Era and Beychella there is not much to discuss about this. 🙂
It's always a shame when some people feel the need to be insulting. I suggest if you have such information then create your own site and be open for the opinion of others.
It's really not that cut and dry. Britney has 9 albums Rihanna has 8. Bey 6. Britney benifited greatly from a peak in physical sales and tappered off. Rih has an iron fist in digital sales. Beyonce pulls from both sectors.
U.S Chart wise:
Britney has 5 #1s. One she shares with Rihanna.
Beyonce-5, recentlty 6
Rihanna- 14
Top 10s
Britney- 13
Beyonce- 18
Rihanna- 31
Top 40s
Britney- 27
Beyonce- 39
Rihanna- 51
The results are almost similar worldwide. Again. I am not even sure why Britney continues to be interjected into the conversation. She has lagged behind other pop artists for the last decade.
I dont think Britneys 100 million is unattainable. Her catalog is weak in sales and streams. Beyonce has decade old songs and albums that pop up on the charts sporadically. Rihanna continues to have a presence on radio and the growing dominance streaming.
Curent Spotify popularity
Britney- 190th
Beyonce- 40th
Rihanna- 14th
Youtube -
Britney- 61st
Beyonce- 15th
Rihanna- 6th
Hi KantClark!
It's one of these tracks that got insane South Korean sales! They are often downgraded because it got two versions running and selling very well for many years. Its 5 main identified sales avenues are:
- SK (DLs only) - 1700k
- JP (RTs) - 350k
- US (DLs) - 875k
- US (RTs) - 500k
- UK (DLs) - 410k
It gets slightly over 200k from CA+Oz+Fr+Ge+It. Then the rest comes from calculations as per market sizes. As you can expect, it uses extensively ringtones sales from that era, especially in SK which fuels its results since RTs were healthy there too!
Hi Stephon!
Halo sales are:
- 120,000 CDs
- 13,120,000 DLs
- 591,000 Streaming Equivalent Album, which is 5,910,000 singles if we use the strandard 150:1 ratio
I have a question regarding Lemonade sales. Something feels a bit strange and I am glad you can clarify.
At the end of the 2016 you said Lemonade sold 2,5M (on par with the IFPD report) and I assume sales=shipments at that point, 8 months later from the release. In the breakdown she sold a ratio less than 2:1 USA vs rest of the World (1,6 vs 0,9).
Since then she add 300k in the USA, but only 70K in the rest of the world, a ratio more than 4:1. She constantly keeps good positions in the Itunes charts in a lot of countries including big ones like UK/CAN/AUS. I know that in most countries means almost nothing, but all things considered it seems strange.
What I am missing? It is posible you understimate a little bit her sales because bad chart-runs (caused by lack of streaming)?
Thanks in advance 😉
Beyonce must have killed your parents. i read the article and it proves you are just another depressed type
Why in the Lady Gaga article did you put Telephone her third best selling song with 4,430,000 and in Beyonce it is the tenth most sold song with only 1,720,000?
Britney's 100million eas is kind of unattainable (but maybe not on Rih's case)because Rihanna would need to release 2-3 more albums (based on anti's total cspc) to possibly surpass Britney's numbers, which Britney may have release one more album.
Based on lemonade total eas, I dont think Beyonce can surpass Britney's total eas. Bey would need to release prolly 4-5 more albums to outEAS Britney. Its just a long time to predict Bey can surpass Britney's numbers so it's safe to say Bey wont reach Britney's eas numbers.
We cant predict the future or what each lady will release. But data tells us that Beyonce has an average eas over her 6 eras that outpaces Britneys 9. Yes sales are falling but the growth in streaming shouldnt be underestimated and do add up over time. Again, Britneys catalog and newer singles have been moving slow vs Beyonces and Rihanna's. At this point its futile for Britney to keep releasing albums that do half the total of the last. Brings her average and legacy down.
Antis last update was at 5.2 million. Maybe we can say 5.5 now. Meanwhile Lemonade is estimated at 4.3 million. Thats not a wide margin considering Beyonce only had a one week top 10 from the album and limited radio support.
I just don't see much indication pointing at Beyonce not being able to do another 25 million within the next 5-10 years. If she gains pop support back there would be no question.
