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Ok, I see. I fully ignored both her Asian and ringtones figures, so now it makes sense.
By the way, I'd like to say I regard CSPC as the most reliable, comprehensible and well-thought metric for assessing recording artists careers I've come to know. It baffles me that the so-called recording industry insiders and chart organizations still weren't able to come up with a methodology this solid. They're supposed to be the experts, right?
And I can only imagine all the hard work put into collecting and estimating the most reliable figures, taking into account the number of years, releases and consumption medias covered. I always resort to your data when debating with another charts afficionados.
Congratulations from Brazil, and keep up with the great work!
wait so i how would measure for example crazy in love success as a single rather than a eas when it comes to streaming? like how much would it have sold
ipy they are way bigger than the numbers they put and you put. im pretty sure her first 3 albums are ATLEAST 10x plat or diamond in the U.S. id say dil is around 15-16, bday 13-14, iasf 15-17.
as for 4 id say around 7-8, st 7-9, and lemonade is now probably close to 5x, which would ultimately bring her ww stats to top selling especially her first 3 albums. as for 4 and st theyd be lower tier around 60-80 and lemonade had a ways to go but its moving fast since its release on spotify.
Hey MJD what do you make of this 2011 BBC article about a Press Release by Sony regarding Beyoncé’s pure album sales.
It looks like BBC Press is making the claim rather than Sony themselves which is already dubious, but seeing how outlandish the numbers are I’d say it’s very easy to dismiss this as valid.
She sold 75M pure albums according to Sony themselves! https://www.sony.com/en_us/SCA/company-news/press-releases/sony-music-entertainment/2013/the-mrs-carter-show-world-tour-starring-beyonce.html
those are based on her numbers from 7 years ago. and they aren't accurate considering she hasn't updated any of her stats from her first 5 albums in the U.S.
Yep and it’s 75M pure albums with just her first 3 releases. So MJD is way off on his estimation.
Hi Beytingz!
Maybe it's your interpretation of Sony's claim that is way off? Seriously, 75m pure sales for Beyonce's first 3 albums? Come on 😉
Sony are master at changing the subject in the middle of their sentences. Random examples from their reports:
- "Thriller was #1 in the US for 37 weeks [=> one understands it's Thriller, the album itself] and sold 104 million copies [=> then they are mentioning sales of all records containing Thriller]"
- "Baby One More Time went 13xP in the US [=> album alone] and sold 30 million units [=> sales of all records, singles included, during the era]"
- "she has released four #1 solo albums [=> solo albums stats] and has sold over 75 million albums worldwide [=> comprehensive career data, adding the DC's sales]"
All it takes is reading between the lines these marketing tricks.
BTW, for albums as recent as Beyonce's albums, the 'estimation' part is close to null, all figures are backed by official data from the music industry organizations.
If you say it’s with DC when Sony clearly stated solo then that puts her well over 50M solo albums by now and your figures still don’t reflect that? So when will you update her stats?
Sony has faked their artists numbers so many times. For her to sell 75M records with 3 albums, it seems unrealistic, that would be more than 20M per album..
Albums* not records. Faked? That’s a whole press release they did. They have investors to answer to they can’t “fake" albums sales. IFPI also only started reporting on a yearly basis in 2009? And Beyoncé’s album sales were only reported for Lemonade in 2016.
to add, she did those numbers without updating her first 5 albums after 1-2 years of its release. i can see her solidly passing her after a sales update. and as for rihanna she will continue to do well commercially but in sales, she underperforms considering she has been a mainstream artist her whole career.
Because these numbers are unimaginable, according to Nielsen, Beyonce sold around 18 mln pure albums in the US (which accounts for around 50 percent of Beyonce sales), she can't sell 57 mln outside of US (even Adele and Taylor have around 60 and 50 mln pure album sales respectively). So that 75 mln figure is straight-up inaccurate. So it isn't nice to believe in everything you read on the internet. Nielsen and IFPI are the most reliable sources
