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(@Denysanatol)
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Nice for you ! Unexpected ! Thank you ! Waiting the next articles .


   
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(@Cameron Tracy)
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Lists by decade:
50s:
Doris day

70s:
The osmonds:
Diana Ross
Donna summer
Olivia Newton John
Carole King

80s:
Cindy Lauper
Bannanarama
Kim Wilde
Rick astely
Jason Donovan
Gloria Estefan
The petshop boys
Paula Abdul
Tiffany
Debbie Gibson
Martika
Vanessa paradis
The bangles
Taylor Dayne
New kids on the block
Sonia
Big fun
Pebbles

1990s:
Monica
Sinead o Conner (for her first album)
Brandy
Hikaru utada
Justin Timberlake (update for man of the woods)
Jessica Simpson
Mandy Moore
Vitamin C
Aaron carter
Steps
S club 7
Amy grant
Selena (the 90s singer)
Mary J Blidge
Billie piper
Robyn
Pochohantes soundtrack
Eiffel 65
Westlife
Jewel

2000s:
Nelly Furtado
O town
Dream
Hillary duff
Ashlee Simpson
Girls Aloud
Ciara
The pussycat dolls
Lilly Allen
Leona Lewis
The Jonas brothers
Cheryl cole
Susan Boyle
Lil Wayne
Jack Johnson
Duffy
Jordan sparks
Natasha beingfield
Lindsay Lohan (for her 2 albums)
Anastasia
Joss stone
Jojo (first 2 albums)
Hoku (for another dumb blonde physical single/first album)
Kanye west (least priority)
Jay Z (least priority)
Pink (update for beautiful trauma and hurts 2 be human)
Mama Mia (both soundtracks)
Twilight (all soundtracks)
The siccisor sisters (maybe) (less of a priority)
Eric prydz (call on me single)
Eamon (fuck you hoe I don’t want you back)

2010s:
Moana (soundtrack)
Trolls (soundtrack)
Frozen (update for frozen 2)
Kesha
Nicki Minaj
Ellie Goulding
Christina Perri
Lorde (update for melodrama)
Jess Glynne
Fifth harmony
Halsey
Zara larsson
The chainsmokers
Camila cabello
Cardi B (done already)
The greatest showman (soundtrack)
Anne Marie
Mabel
Becky G
Alesia cara
Charlie puth
Melanie Martinez
Laura dagile
Jessie J
Ava max
Cher Lloyd
Bridget mendler
Billie eilish (update sales for first album later)
Rita Ora (less of a priority)
Jackie Evancho (first 2 albums)
Miranda cosgrove (first album era)
Sia
Heline fisher (German artist) (less of a priority)
Willow smith (for whip my hair)

Total artists I want studied: 99

Please can you start off with new kids on the block Paula Abdul and tiffany darwish


   
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(@Andrew Mark)
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They were huge in Brazil too. There's a link to a Brazilian journal in Wikipedia informing tha The Sign sold 200,000 at the time, almost a platinum cert. They probably sold more than 250,000 in Brazil.


   
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 Bren
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I think you guys underestimated their sales especially from the debut era.

According to this report The Sign album sold 1.75 million copies in Canada.
https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=YAgEAAAAMBAJ&dq=ireland+bodyguard+sales+billboard&pg=PA11&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=ireland%20bodyguard%20sales%20billboard&f=false

According to local news their debut reached 200k sales as of July 1994.You guys have 207k. http://memoria.bn.br/DocReader/DocReader.aspx?bib=170054_02&pesq=ace%20of%20base%20mil%20c%C3%B3pias&pasta=ano%20199&hf=memoria.bn.br&pagfis=58765

According to Music and Media report their debut sold 900k in Scandinavia.
https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Music-and-Media/90s/1995/MM-1995-11-04.pdf

According to Infodisc Happy Nation single sold 540k in France and it certified Gold (250k) in Germany.That's already 790k but you guys have 693k.

According to official reports The Bridge sold 500k in Japan as of 1996.
https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=vgcEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA67&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false


   
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(@mjd)
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Hi Bren!

I would like to be positive at these links but in all fairness they are the ones being overly generous rather than our figures being underestimated. It's worth mentioning that these reports are factored in and reviewed when we review the numbers.

For Canada, the link doesn't state that the album was at 1.75m there (it went 6xP, 600,000, a pair of days after this publication, and made it to 1m in March 95 'only'), but that Arista shipped 1,750,000 copies between Latin America, Japan and Canada, the countries they were handling the release outside of the US.

About Brazil, the album went officially Gold (100,000) in 1995, and never made the Platinum award the article claims it was going to pass soon. I do think our number on this one can be in the low side, but that wouldn't be by much. It's hard to be 100% certain as it depends on how the The Sign reissue was considered on that official certification.

About Scandinavia, our figures fit with a combined 900k in Scandinavia for the 3 versions of the album.

Infodisc figures aren't official, nor accurate, they are charts converted into sales, with Dominic the responsible of the website being unaware of the market evolution there. That's why he estimates early 70s albums (when selling 200k was a miracle) at a million or more, or Diamond albums (for 1m) at under 500k sold. In the same way, the French single market collapsed in early 90s, from 72m sold in 1983 to 43m in 1988 to 15-12-12-14m in each year from 1991 to 1994, then was back up to 43m in 1997. Every single from these 1991-1994 are ridiculously inflated at infodisc. Happy Nation went Silver in France, for 125,000 sales, failing to hit Gold at 250,000. Our own chart conversion tools (which do consider the market evolution) suggest it did go over 250,000, but by the end of its run, which may be why it wasn't updated. In any case, 540,000 is way off the mark.

As for The Bridge by September 1996, the album was certified for 400,000 units in February 1997. It had previously dropped out of the top 100 chart with 273,890 sales over the counter by May 6, 1996. After that, weekly units were under 3,000, the needed amount to be at the bottom of the list. These latter numbers do not include imports, which were starting to be signficant by that point, but half a million as early as the article claim is more than unlikely. The article also states the The Sign was on 800,000, while it was certified for 600,000 sales just a few weeks earlier.

To navigate accurately between these misleading information is precisely the point of ChartMasters, these articles aim at avoiding the traps pages from the likes Wikipedia fall into again and again.


   
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 Bren
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Thanks for clarifying.


   
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(@aob80)
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Hi again! I'm still digging here and I enjoy a lot. I also have some question (I'm really Ace of Base nerd, lol)

1. You statement that The Bridge sold 85.000 in Sweden. There is article with 1995 sales summary from Swedish press (Aftonbladet, 30/12/1995) which says it was 117.000 copies. Could it be correct? There is also award /certification for 100.000+ album sales -

2.Da Capo: The DVD - you counted it as video but the release is actually the same disc as for Exclusive Fan Edition and you did separate Da Capo and Video Clips on it. Maybe it should be the same here: Da Capo: The DVD (Da Capo), Da Capo: The DVD (Video Clips)?

3.Greatest Hits (2008) is also complicated because some releases included dvd with video clips. And do you also included 2019 version from UK (Gold) here? The Gold release (CD version) included bonus CD with Hidden Gems. Maybe it should be counted as Gold (Greatest Hits) and Gold (Hidden Gems)?

4.Hidden Gems Vol. 2 numbers are for physical release, right? If yes shoudn't it be presented as part of CD box All That She Wants - The Classic Collections which includes also 4 studio albums, video clips dvd and Hidden Gems Vol 1 and Vol 2.

5.Some Ace of Base numbers are missing in few sections:
- from recent published artists, Ace of Base is not included in "top artist - albums pure sales"
- I can't see The Sign single in "top singles - physical singles sales" (All That She Wants and Don't Turn Around are visible though).
- Top Spotify albums - only Happy Nation album is visible


   
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(@Denysanatol)
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Because on "Top Spotify Albums" only "Happy Nation" get 500.000.000 streams .


   
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(@Denysanatol)
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Because on "Top Spotify Albums" only "Happy Nation" get 500.000.000 streams .


   
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(@aob80)
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bump 😉


   
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