Mass update: CSPC totals jump by over 250 million

CSPC the greatest selling artists of all-time

For years, many of you have been waiting patiently for every new Commensure Sales to Popularity Concept (CSPC) article, pieces of work portraying in detail the success of an artist.

Today, with introduce the biggest revolution since the start of this concept.

In fact, the streaming component of CSPC totals will now be updated automatically as soon as you want it!

The best selling artists ever

If you are not familiar with this concept, it consists in retrieving sales figures from every format and weighting them on par with album sales.

In doing so, we grant that comparisons between artists from different periods make sense, unlike lists based on raw records totals.

The method also secures that the same formula is applied to all artists, avoiding issues related to the varying conversion rate used for streaming in different markets as well as by most labels on their communications.

All figures for sales have been detailed on each artist article, available through the link under their name.

The column ‘Other LPs’ includes long formats made of already released material like greatest hits compilations, box sets, live records, bootlegs, and music videos.

Digital singles include both downloads and ringtones.

The automatic update of streams

Data related to streams uses multiple audio and video platforms to convert into EAS (Equivalent Album Sales). The formula is defined as below.

Equivalent Albums Sales (EAS) = ( Spotify * 310/207 + Genie * 3.05*2 + AWA * 100/5.5 ) / 1500 + ( Xiami * 125/6.5 + YouTube ) / 11750

Platforms Genie, AWA, and Xiami reflect artists’ popularity in South Korea, Japan and China, respectively.

Once we apply the formula to the results of an artist, we are able to define a conversion rate between Spotify numbers to comprehensive streaming EAS.

We then apply this rate to last updated streams from Spotify as searched by our users with our tool.

For example, if an artist had 3 billion streams on Spotify and 5 million EAS from streams when last studied while he is up to 6 billion streams now, the process will add him 5 million EAS on top of his previous total.

If something happens to significantly change the ratio, like a local artist getting a big global smash, we will update it inside our database.

Regular users of our streaming search tool know it doesn’t retrieve features that do not appear inside an artist page.

In backend, we do have a version of the tool that does look for what we use to call orphan songs.

The script looks at the former streaming EAS from the article, the calculated EAs based on the last user search (without orphans) and the calculated EAS based on the last backend search (with orphans) and uses the highest figure on below table.

We will make sure to frequently look for the largest artists in terms of orphan songs like Rihanna, Drake and Justin Bieber.

A last specificity are artists with side discographies that are accounted for into their CSPC article because of their huge contribution on them.

Selena Gomez & The Scene, Beyoncé as part of The Carters, Rod Stewart & The Faces, the Jackson 5 with the Jacksons, etc.

We also accounted for these cases by looking at the relative strength of the side discography so that the calculation remains comprehensive.

If you happen a number going down, it would be either because we revised the artist ratio downward or because Spotify made a song unavailable. In this later case, we will fix the situation manually as soon as we notice it.

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Top CSPC – the all-time artists chart

To allow you to see the tremendous impact of this mass update, which adds for over 300 million sales over all artists, we temporarily display head to head the former CSPC total along with the updated one.

The below table presents the best selling artists of all-time using the below ratios.

  • Studio Album: sales of the original album
  • Other LPs: sales of compilations generated thanks to the album
  • Physical Singles: sales of physical singles from the album (added to CSPC total with a ratio 3/10 for 2-tracks, 5/10 for EPs and Maxis)
  • Digital Singles: sales of digital singles from the album (ratio 1,5/10 for CSPC total)
  • Streaming: equivalent album sales of all the album tracks (ratio 1/1500 for Audio stream and 1/11750 for Video stream)

The * mark after streaming numbers means the value contains orphan songs.

Naturally, older artists have very few features, so the absence of them can be irrelevant.

The Beatles for example have simply no orphan song at all on Spotify, meaning that all their songs are available on their artist page as they recording no featuring nor songs for various artists releases.

#PICArtistTotal CSPCStudio Albums SalesOther LPs SalesPhysical Singles SalesDigital Singles SalesSales UpdateStreams EAS (Update)
1TheThe Beatles414,557,000160,650,000203,392,000116,080,00035,230,00003/01/1710,407,000* (02/27/21)
2MichaelMichael Jackson329,588,000182,600,000101,997,00079,350,00079,930,00009/27/179,196,000* (02/27/21)
3ElvisElvis Presley316,205,00053,150,000212,309,000135,210,00037,470,00009/01/184,564,000* (02/19/21)
4QueenQueen267,954,00090,230,000139,348,00049,960,00059,650,00001/25/2014,437,000* (02/27/21)
5MadonnaMadonna243,599,000146,450,00064,420,00075,210,00042,100,00008/13/173,851,000* (02/27/21)
6TheThe Rolling Stones240,167,000113,800,00092,495,00072,770,00046,200,00012/03/165,110,000* (02/24/21)
7PinkPink Floyd233,362,000169,600,00052,025,0008,800,00023,360,00006/18/175,593,000* (02/26/21)
8LedLed Zeppelin203,739,000141,500,00051,200,0006,350,00032,030,00008/08/164,330,000* (02/27/21)
9EltonElton John199,974,00088,630,00082,400,00065,340,00026,250,00002/05/185,404,000* (02/27/21)
10U2U2197,673,000127,100,00053,051,00022,550,00040,500,00008/31/164,682,000* (02/27/21)
11CélineCéline Dion195,801,000136,200,00040,424,00039,290,00026,660,00009/23/163,391,000* (02/27/21)
12AC/DCAC/DC195,302,000132,470,00049,349,0007,200,00033,450,00002/20/186,305,000* (02/27/21)
13RodRod Stewart & Faces188,743,000100,150,00066,819,00055,220,00017,420,00011/23/192,586,000* (02/26/21)
14EminemEminem186,220,00097,920,00025,487,00014,380,000197,610,00007/31/1928,859,000* (02/27/21)
15EaglesEagles173,213,00065,425,00096,732,00016,630,00020,440,00012/20/173,002,000* (02/27/21)
16MariahMariah Carey171,638,000116,100,00031,228,00036,890,00050,130,00004/28/175,724,000* (02/27/21)
17MetallicaMetallica159,454,000121,260,00020,164,00015,480,00040,770,00002/13/197,270,000* (02/25/21)
18ABBAABBA159,160,00045,300,00091,491,00054,400,00017,870,00011/02/163,369,000* (02/27/21)
19BruceBruce Springsteen159,127,000103,400,00042,176,00021,010,00025,420,00007/07/173,436,000* (02/26/21)
20BeeBee Gees158,951,00075,525,00056,477,00072,790,00017,230,00004/09/172,527,000* (02/27/21)
21WhitneyWhitney Houston154,725,000113,600,00017,175,00049,520,00034,250,00005/04/173,955,000* (02/27/21)
22BarbraBarbra Streisand152,945,00091,370,00049,714,00035,250,0003,680,00003/16/18733,000* (02/20/21)
23PhilPhil Collins149,259,00093,780,00039,905,00029,910,00022,690,00004/11/183,198,000* (02/27/21)
24BillyBilly Joel148,685,00091,400,00040,235,00036,900,00021,000,00010/19/162,830,000* (02/26/21)
25FleetwoodFleetwood Mac148,279,00084,550,00046,392,00026,060,00032,030,00010/08/164,715,000* (02/27/21)
26BonBon Jovi147,210,00089,450,00039,176,00027,980,00038,450,00011/16/164,422,000* (02/27/21)
27SantanaSantana144,512,00089,465,00046,265,00015,380,00016,560,00008/04/201,762,000* (02/12/21)
28GarthGarth Brooks144,338,00081,605,00062,341,000950,00090,00001/05/1992,000* (02/21/21)
29BobBob Dylan143,828,00083,350,00047,870,00017,680,00030,410,00010/23/162,743,000* (02/27/21)
30BobBob Marley138,731,00043,075,00081,593,0009,980,00033,690,00011/21/176,015,000* (02/14/21)
31PrincePrince132,892,00086,580,00027,141,00042,910,00029,590,00010/04/181,860,000* (02/25/21)
32AerosmithAerosmith131,694,00071,710,00048,158,00015,500,00025,550,00006/01/183,343,000* (02/27/21)
33DavidDavid Bowie128,496,00071,500,00036,023,00044,200,00019,830,00001/11/174,737,000* (02/27/21)
34SimonSimon & Garfunkel125,069,00037,820,00075,732,00023,830,00014,350,00005/11/182,216,000* (02/24/21)
35GunsGuns N' Roses121,144,00086,360,00020,134,00011,900,00037,210,00003/01/185,498,000* (02/27/21)
36TheThe Doors115,661,00051,980,00055,480,00013,860,00011,100,00003/03/192,378,000* (02/17/21)
37PaulPaul McCartney110,908,00061,670,00027,441,00057,970,00011,250,00012/13/182,718,000* (02/26/21)
38DireDire Straits110,028,00071,730,00031,635,0008,380,00010,900,00003/23/182,514,000* (02/23/21)
39GeorgeGeorge Michael & Wham!107,360,00060,200,00026,150,00049,880,00016,770,00005/07/173,531,000* (02/24/21)
40BritneyBritney Spears103,962,00068,595,00011,460,00018,600,00083,030,00004/28/195,873,000* (02/27/21)
41VanVan Halen102,494,00079,620,00014,065,00010,450,00016,810,00012/14/203,148,000* (02/09/21)
42ColdplayColdplay99,065,00059,560,0005,979,0002,050,00093,680,00011/30/1918,854,000* (02/27/21)
43TheThe Police97,780,00046,370,00040,183,00023,810,00011,300,00006/06/202,377,000* (02/20/21)
44RihannaRihanna97,544,00033,100,000500,0003,560,000251,150,00007/03/1925,205,000* (02/27/21)
45TaylorTaylor Swift97,110,00048,220,0003,768,000260,000158,560,00010/23/2021,256,000* (02/27/21)
46BackstreetBackstreet Boys96,752,00058,900,00025,685,00018,010,00022,550,00002/09/173,381,000* (02/27/21)
47RedRed Hot Chili Peppers95,551,00061,870,00016,881,0004,800,00044,400,00003/29/188,701,000* (02/27/21)
48NirvanaNirvana92,580,00045,000,00037,650,0004,190,00023,250,00007/09/175,185,000* (02/27/21)
49CreedenceCreedence Clearwater Revival91,100,00033,135,00045,489,00022,570,00014,600,00001/31/193,516,000* (02/26/21)
50AdeleAdele89,842,00059,110,0003,855,000530,000100,240,00006/02/1911,682,000* (02/27/21)
51DrakeDrake89,168,00014,775,00000137,310,00008/28/1753,797,000* (02/27/21)
52EnyaEnya87,823,00065,480,00017,069,0005,250,0009,610,00002/25/182,256,000* (02/25/21)
53BryanBryan Adams87,511,00042,260,00030,518,00032,090,00017,250,00003/23/192,519,000* (02/26/21)
54GreenGreen Day85,893,00058,250,00013,567,0003,050,00044,600,00003/11/176,472,000* (02/21/21)
55LinkinLinkin Park85,844,00048,350,00014,500,0003,210,00073,710,00006/04/1710,975,000* (02/27/21)
56BeyonceBeyonce82,175,00033,430,0004,431,0004,070,000166,890,00005/02/1818,060,000* (02/27/21)
57ShaniaShania Twain81,539,00063,200,00011,259,00013,130,00010,700,00012/05/161,536,000* (02/25/21)
58JourneyJourney81,012,00040,250,00031,623,0008,090,00029,770,00009/13/192,248,000* (02/25/21)
59StingSting79,618,00052,360,00017,720,00016,010,00014,160,00006/14/202,349,000* (02/26/21)
60BlackBlack Sabbath78,297,00046,280,00027,467,0003,300,00011,280,00003/08/201,828,000* (02/10/21)
61JustinJustin Bieber77,878,00019,810,0007,120,000540,000110,890,00008/04/1934,152,000* (02/27/21)
62JanetJanet Jackson77,807,00050,500,00012,175,00040,640,00013,350,00004/17/17939,000* (02/26/21)
63RobbieRobbie Williams76,116,00046,500,00021,770,00011,960,00013,860,00012/15/192,162,000* (02/27/21)
64JohnnyJohnny Hallyday75,788,00026,740,00035,156,00043,740,0001,430,00001/01/18557,000* (01/30/21)
65SadeSade75,030,00051,560,00018,565,0006,270,00011,140,00007/01/201,352,000* (02/25/21)
66JohnJohn Lennon73,477,00031,420,00030,759,00026,780,00012,160,00010/16/181,440,000* (02/26/21)
67CherCher73,216,00034,825,00021,889,00046,220,0009,630,00008/30/171,192,000* (02/27/21)
68SupertrampSupertramp71,640,00048,540,00017,999,00010,070,0006,830,00008/13/191,055,000* (02/26/21)
69MaroonMaroon 570,504,00026,050,0002,138,0001,600,000149,190,00012/02/1919,418,000* (02/25/21)
70EdEd Sheeran69,488,00021,970,000466,000130,00079,640,00010/27/1935,063,000* (02/26/21)
71LadyLady Gaga69,075,00031,215,0004,790,0001,570,000128,860,00012/18/2013,268,000* (02/27/21)
72P!nkP!nk67,723,00037,025,0008,906,0007,270,00081,150,00010/15/177,438,000* (02/27/21)
73MichaelMichael Buble65,637,00047,800,0006,344,000770,00035,400,00012/11/165,952,000* (02/19/21)
74BTSBTS64,296,00021,850,0007,960,0003,220,00030,880,00009/04/2028,885,000* (02/27/21)
75UsherUsher64,148,00036,160,0002,201,00012,040,00093,610,00009/04/178,133,000* (02/27/21)
76ShakiraShakira63,219,00034,780,0006,620,0008,460,00056,350,00006/21/1810,830,000* (02/27/21)
77MeatMeat Loaf62,223,00048,300,0009,565,00010,850,0003,900,00006/16/18519,000* (02/22/21)
78AyumiAyumi Hamasaki61,286,00021,810,00019,339,00025,980,00046,480,00009/27/19616,000* (02/27/21)
79OasisOasis61,281,00041,050,00010,046,00011,420,00018,800,00012/06/173,940,000* (02/27/21)
80BrunoBruno Mars59,607,00017,375,00040,000250,000149,580,00006/27/1919,681,000* (02/27/21)
81JacksonJackson 5 & The Jacksons58,765,00026,400,00019,027,00031,160,00013,720,00009/26/171,932,000* (02/27/21)
82AlanisAlanis Morissette57,535,00047,065,0006,951,0003,340,0009,080,00006/05/181,155,000* (02/26/21)
83BlackBlack Eyed Peas56,375,00033,350,000251,0006,590,000103,960,00008/03/175,203,000* (02/27/21)
84EnriqueEnrique Iglesias55,595,00033,900,0005,300,0008,900,00050,110,00009/27/166,208,000* (02/27/21)
85NickelbackNickelback55,493,00040,500,0001,824,0003,020,00057,280,00006/28/173,671,000* (02/27/21)
86ChristinaChristina Aguilera54,142,00030,400,0004,375,00012,740,00069,950,00003/18/175,052,000* (02/27/21)
87OzzyOzzy Osbourne51,990,00039,370,0007,483,0003,760,00015,180,00003/12/201,707,000* (02/13/21)
88PaulPaul Simon51,890,00034,390,00011,598,00012,820,0003,740,00005/10/181,496,000* (02/17/21)
89OneOne Direction51,849,00023,900,0006,350,000120,00057,000,00005/14/1713,012,000* (02/27/21)
90NorahNorah Jones51,581,00043,550,0002,825,000300,00018,600,00011/04/162,426,000* (02/27/21)
91TracyTracy Chapman51,553,00043,760,0003,519,0003,480,00012,490,00006/25/191,355,000* (02/26/21)
92JustinJustin Timberlake50,799,00023,490,0001,480,0005,330,000102,090,00002/09/188,916,000* (02/27/21)
93KatyKaty Perry50,375,00015,880,000300,000870,000135,430,00006/16/1913,620,000* (02/17/21)
94BostonBoston50,128,00041,330,0004,803,0005,640,0009,540,00006/01/19873,000* (02/10/21)
95AliciaAlicia Keys50,109,00032,960,0002,524,0003,690,00057,750,00011/19/164,855,000* (02/27/21)
96SpiceSpice Girls49,372,00037,050,0004,349,00020,020,0005,200,00003/23/171,187,000* (02/26/21)
97Destiny'sDestiny's Child47,720,00033,010,0005,800,00011,120,00022,320,00005/02/182,227,000* (02/27/21)
98MileyMiley Cyrus47,089,00023,050,0002,365,000250,00070,530,00012/06/2011,019,000* (02/15/21)
99CranberriesCranberries45,715,00037,650,0003,710,0004,120,0008,210,00001/25/181,888,000* (02/22/21)
100AvrilAvril Lavigne45,103,00032,290,0001,206,0003,510,00046,160,00002/10/183,262,000* (02/27/21)
101NSYNCNSYNC44,859,00037,930,0002,669,0006,980,0005,110,00002/09/181,400,000* (02/27/21)
102MannheimMannheim Steamroller44,145,00033,305,00010,344,00040,0002,410,00012/24/20114,000* (01/30/21)
103JenniferJennifer Lopez44,009,00026,120,0004,811,00010,760,00036,810,00006/24/184,329,000* (02/27/21)
104ArianaAriana Grande44,001,0005,225,000499,00050,00050,360,00010/16/1930,705,000* (02/27/21)
105FooFoo Fighters42,052,00026,750,0006,207,0001,430,00026,610,00010/10/174,675,000* (02/27/21)
106TheThe Weeknd41,536,0005,235,0003,035,00080,00044,270,00009/10/2022,028,000* (02/27/21)
107TLCTLC40,764,00032,195,0001,920,00013,120,0008,350,00004/07/191,460,000* (02/25/21)
108TakeTake That39,034,00019,930,00014,016,0009,210,00010,240,00012/15/19754,000* (02/17/21)
109KellyKelly Clarkson36,670,00021,600,0001,460,0002,200,00062,010,00005/23/183,647,000* (02/27/21)
110KylieKylie Minogue36,581,00020,320,0007,103,00019,720,00012,150,00004/16/181,418,000* (02/18/21)
111NoNo Doubt35,231,00025,730,0006,058,0004,910,0006,080,00003/29/201,059,000* (02/26/21)
112ImagineImagine Dragons32,768,0007,960,000371,00030,00045,410,00009/19/1817,615,000* (02/27/21)
113AmyAmy Winehouse32,610,00023,180,0002,411,000580,00021,660,00007/19/193,596,000* (02/25/21)
114KendrickKendrick Lamar31,522,0005,725,00050,000032,650,00004/12/1920,849,000* (02/26/21)
115DidoDido30,861,00026,630,000420,0005,320,0006,210,00002/18/191,283,000* (02/26/21)
116EvanescenceEvanescence30,666,00022,440,0002,755,0002,170,00018,390,00006/30/192,062,000* (02/21/21)
117PostPost Malone30,638,0001,720,00010,00040,00014,640,00011/26/2026,699,000* (02/27/21)
118CarrieCarrie Underwood29,389,00018,050,000839,000500,00054,410,00009/09/182,189,000* (02/25/21)
119JamesJames Blunt28,436,00020,440,0001,020,0002,130,00023,090,00002/05/192,872,000* (02/27/21)
120SamSam Smith27,075,0006,525,00025,000100,00032,700,00010/11/1715,590,000* (02/27/21)
121SelenaSelena Gomez26,794,0005,490,000215,00040,00035,710,00011/28/1715,720,000* (02/27/21)
122BjörkBjörk25,939,00019,730,0004,372,0002,620,0003,460,00012/23/18532,000* (02/26/21)
123GorillazGorillaz24,179,00014,830,0001,240,0002,110,00019,000,00005/08/174,626,000* (02/27/21)
124ShawnShawn Mendes22,418,0002,630,000120,00040,00020,330,00010/08/1916,607,000* (02/27/21)
125RenaudRenaud22,184,00013,230,0007,667,0002,660,000690,00011/01/17385,000* (01/30/21)
126MacklemoreMacklemore21,558,0003,225,00045,00080,00039,270,00011/07/1712,374,000* (02/16/21)
127LanaLana Del Rey21,461,0007,950,000565,000210,00020,200,00008/24/179,853,000* (02/27/21)
128ArcticArctic Monkeys20,599,00010,340,000302,000560,00012,870,00005/14/187,859,000* (02/27/21)
129BillieBillie Eilish20,426,0002,270,0002,00010,0005,920,00007/04/2017,244,000* (02/27/21)
130DemiDemi Lovato20,378,0004,480,00035,00050,00035,890,00010/09/1810,464,000* (02/07/21)
131AviciiAvicii20,148,0002,200,000170,000250,00036,700,00004/25/1812,198,000* (02/25/21)
132GwenGwen Stefani19,813,00012,060,000154,0003,130,00029,040,00004/12/202,304,000* (02/26/21)
133AaliyahAaliyah18,113,00012,200,0003,174,0006,350,0003,050,00002/14/17375,000* (02/27/21)
134DuaDua Lipa17,000,000945,0006,00020,0007,020,00001/05/2114,990,000* (02/27/21)
135FergieFergie13,855,0006,450,00025,000750,00036,900,00007/12/171,620,000* (02/25/21)
136Will.i.amWill.i.am12,275,000950,0000750,00053,300,00007/20/173,106,000* (02/17/21)
137LittleLittle Mix12,076,0003,670,0000130,00012,020,00002/02/206,564,000* (02/27/21)
138LordeLorde11,296,0003,300,000100,000019,250,00006/22/175,008,000* (02/27/21)
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Shravan.S.Nayak

Hi
I am curious to know that how many records did MJ sell worldwide, and did Elvis presley and The beatles actually sell a billion records?
Last question, who sold more records Mj or elvis.

JTra

BTS has sold close to 26 million albums in South Korea alone so they should update the data later

Al

Gaon numbers includes exports

Renz Chloe Parungao

Gaon chart includes ww sales

FrancescoShak

Hi, I noticed that the EPs ‘Pepsi’ (and its singles) ‘Love in The Time Cholera’ (and its singles) by Shakira are both missing on her page. I’m not sure about Try Everything too. Also the page hasn’t been updated in two and a half years. Are you planning to update it anytime soon? She grows a lot with streams

knative

It would be interesting to do a list of streaming numbers for just 20th century artists, to see who is popular now. The results would be interesting. Red Hot Chili Peppers would make the top five it looks like which is incredibly weird.

Martin

To an extent yes but even for artists that debuted in the 20th century there are many differences. Acts like Eminem, Linkin Park and Coldplay, although debuting in the 20th century are very much 21st century acts. Acts like The Beatles, Led Zeppelin or Elvis, who have not released any new material, toured etc within the last 40 to 50 years, let alone the streaming age. Acts like The RHCP, Metallica or AC/DC who continue to release new product and tour to this day Acts like Queen, Fleetwood Mac or The Rolling Stones who haven’t released any new studio albums… Read more »

Kris

Even tho Maroon 5 may have formed as another group in the 90s, 100% of their streams come from music released 2002 or later, so I don’t see the point in even including them in a discussion about the 20th century.

Martin

I’m not fussed either way, but it is the same band, with the same personnel (+ Valentine), just a different name. Fleetwood Mac on the other hand, maybe kept the same name, but they transitioned to a far greater extent over the years, with far more personnel changes, than Kara’s Flowers did to Maroon 5, yet they are thought of as a continuation of the same band, that was formed in 1966!

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Kris

I was more just referring to the fact that because none of their 90’s content is available on streaming, that for the purposes of this streaming list, they are a 2000s act.

I bet if we really dug into it, we could find many artists whose “debut” was actually a few years earlier than their mainstream or big-label debut, but because that music often never surfaces or is talked about, we don’t consider it.

Anyway no big deal. Thx for the lists!

Martin

Yes, quite a few acts in the above lists fall into that category. Coldplay, Linkin Park etc were formed in the 90s and released minor EPs etc but didn’t have mainstream success until at least 2000.

I suppose it comes down to how you want to determine what constitutes an artist from the 20th century.

Oh and Kara’s Flowers second album, The Fourth World is actually available on Spotify.

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Kris

Oh I must’ve spelled “Kara” wrong when I searched on spotify because nothing came up but now I see that yes their earlier music is available.

To be honest I think I just started this conversation because I hate Maroon 5! haha

Martin

lol fair enough, can’t say I’m too keen on them either, find their music quite annoying.

knative

It is tricky to get a list that I was thinking of .Maybe we could add that an act would have to chart before 2000 on any chart to be included on the list then I think the top five would be Queen, the Beatles, Jay-Z, Shakira, and Red Hot Chili Peppers, but Jay-Z, Shakira, and Red Hot Chili Peppers would still have gotten a lot of their streams from songs released after the 2000 date.

Bernard VANDENDRIESSCHE

Hello ! Looking at all those succesful artists, I don’t find the name of CLIFF RICHARD who has sold ‘officially’ more than 250 million records worldwide (see wikipedia). Can you give me an appropriate answer. Has you forgotten Cliff or are the numbers strongly overrated ? Thank you so much

Al

This claim istotal bs, early estimates put him at 30m albums and 45m singles. He was no doubt a terrific seller in the UK, but success elsewhere was more limited.

Fanofpop

Are there early estimates for Dolly Parton?

Al

Sadly no, but I can imagine she might be past 50m CSPC

Bernard VANDENDRIESSCHE

Thnx ! But I don’t unsderstand why Wikipedia and other chartdatasites give Cliff such a high number.

Al

These hugely inflated figures aren’t exclusive to Cliff. You have them for Elvis Presley, Bing Crosby, Nana Mouskouri etc too. Most of these claims are usually made for promo.

In many cases for older acts they were given in single equivalent sales which was quite normal back then. But newspapers and such with little knowlege have misinterpreted them as pure album sales or whatever for decades. Then Wikipedia take what’s in many of these newspapers as a fact so…

Ricky Webb

In the late 80s early 90s, to look at Cliff’s then30 years in the business EMI opened there doors to intensive research. As most countries certification systems didn’t come into play until the mid 70s it was hard to put a figure on Cliffs sales. As Cliff was never big in the states who certified from the 50s they couldn’t use the 20% prediction of confirmed sales they had used to work out sales for The Beatles and Elvis. So they chased the money. Sales were worked out in the most accurate way, based on royalties paid to Cliff. This… Read more »

Al

No doubt he’s undercertified but the estimate I sent earlier is based on chart runs rather than certifications. of these sales were 15m albums and 24m singles sold in the UK. These are already incredible numbers there. I don’t get the reason to inflate that. Also now that we use discogs too has it only confirmed rather low sales elsewhere.

Ricky Webb

But that’s the problem right there. You simply can’t base sales on chart runs for an artist who was best known in the 60s. Other than the Uk and US chart data and chart runs are very vague. Many music newspapers had there own charts, official charts and certifications didn’t come into effect until much later. Most countries didn’t record sales data.
In 1963 Billboard recognised that Cliff was the biggest selling artist of that year. Finally beating his hero Elvis. This is an example of how popular he was at the time.

Ricky Webb

I see Clif is not in your list of researched artists. I ask of you to please look into his sales. Look up Demetri Coryton’s research from the late 80s . I see you have estimated Cliff’s sales figures. Please can you put some research into this to back it up.
I know the 250 million sales is based on units. But turn this back to sales it still puts Cliff over 100 million sales, which will get him high up your sales list.

Fanofpop

Will you still update rihanna when she crosses 100m?

Fanofpop

Will you update Taylor/Rihanna/Coldplay when they hit 100m. Will be exciting to see who hits it first.

Mart

Lionel Richie, Frank Sinatra, Dolly Parton, Diana Ross missing….and Selena Gómez is here…yes, very accurate.

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ojd

they haven’t been studied yet, this is just one team of people and they work very hard to create these articles that tackle the in depth sales of an artist, but they can’t do everybody instantly they need time especially with old artists with vas discographies

Your Data IsBad

Where is Frank Sinatra?

Fanofpop

Hey I still think famous and all of the lights are missing from Rihanna’s page. Can you check it out?

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